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A system’s purpose is what it does, not what it claims to do.

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It does make sense, because if you were developing a bad or evil system then you would obviously want to obfuscate that as much as possible. The first thing you'd do, clearly, is proclaim that the purpose of the system is something good.

This is a common fallacy or I guess maybe shoddy reasoning I see often. Because someone or something either does not announce their intentions or says their intentions are good, then the thing they are using must also be good. Or, we must assume it is good until they announce they're going to use it for not-good purposes.

Like with Flock. There's a lot of people who think the simple defense that Flock thinks it is used to fight crime means it's good. Or DOGE. The simple defense that the people behind DOGE say it's to prevent fraud means it's good.

But what people say and what actually happens are two different things, and the what actually happens part is 1000x more important. Anyone can say anything, and obviously bad actors will lie. That's just a given. So you can't use the stated purpose of something as a defense for that something. You just can't, it makes no sense.


I never said the stated purpose is a defense. The purpose is the purpose not the outcome. Just because you can’t know the true intent of every actor involved does not mean you’re justified in assuming the purpose is what it does. That is lazy broken epistemology.

I agree what a system does is what is important, so why dilute that fact with assumptions of intent and glib moralizing thought terminating cliches?


Will say every benefactor of people not thinking that way. The rest of us, on the other hand, look at the objective results and realize if you want them to change, you have to change the system.

Well duh. “A system will do what it does” is true, but that should not be conflated with its intent or purpose or design which require understanding of human intent. And humans produce unintended results all the time.

> Chances are that we as a society collapse long before we get to send humans to Mars.

And possibly even before we make it back to the moon's surface.


Veloren is awesome! Thanks for the work you do, I’ve enjoyed playing it quite a bit. It’s been a while so maybe time to check it out again soon.

Thanks, I'm glad to hear it :) Unfortunately I've not had much time to work on it recently for personal reasons, but the project is still very much active and receives regular updates!

Yes. Leased IBM equipment was a critical infrastructure component of the holocaust.

Only 100%? I'm seeing SSDs going for about 400% what I paid in 2024.

Old 2nd hand enterprise drives on ebay have seen pretty modest increases.

Actually just went through my purchase history and its even lower than I thought. 37% inc versus May '25.

Pretty niche crowd that is down for building a NAS out of drives that have had long lives already. Basically only people with grasp on zfs redundancy & willingness to accept the risk of SSDs with heavy use but enterprise endurance.


Replacing one java tool with another doesn't solve anyone's problems. If they'd only used Rust then lives would have been saved.

Meh, that sounds like a cargo-cult to me ;)

Don't go there.

Telling my children that "cargo cults" happened because of Rust :)

Because the misogyny is even more pervasive.

Must be good to have an answer putting others down for everything without ever considering their perspective

It's almost as if they aren't considering the best interests of the public or the government/economy that they are dismantling.


This reddit thread¹ details thoroughly the connection to Meta (Facebook) and to a lesser extent Discord as being behind the push in the US.

1. https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rshc1f/i_traced_2_b...


Did you read it? It does neither of those things. It establishes that Meta is fighting to amend these regulatory bills to push onus onto operating systems and Discord isn’t named once in the OP.


Your username is appropriate.

From rfk: “Rep. Kim Carver (R-Bossier City), the sponsor of Louisiana's HB-570, publicly confirmed that a Meta lobbyist brought the legislative language directly to her. “

That’s more than fighting to amend. I’m not sure where I got the discord connection but I thought it was from that link. I’ve read a few things on this subject recently so I may have mixed up two different sources.


Obviously Discord is related. I can simultaneously support age constraints and also *not want my child’s 18th birthday leaked under any circumstances*.


You can buy a cellular data plan for your laptop. Just plug in a 5g radio to your usb port or in some laptops you can even install it internally in a dedicated pcie slot.

Carrier approval is not the reason phones are locked down. If it were then rooting android devices wouldn’t be possible.


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