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People keep rediscovering the Bhagavad Gita in new ways

https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/47/


> You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you are not entitled to the fruits of action. Never consider yourself the cause of the results of your activities, and never be attached to not doing your duty.

I have a hard time interpreting that as what geohotz is saying. If anything it seems to promote rent seekers by telling you - stick to your lane and don't complain. I.e. the caste system


> If anything it seems to promote rent seekers by telling you - stick to your lane and don't complain. I.e. the caste system

I was wondering if that would come up and HN delivers without fail. Anyway, you are free to interpret it as you see fit.

The guidance was for someone who was struggling with a moral dillema on facing relatives in war and undecided over action. It is not a diktat to work or provide unquestion labor.

For anyone who understood the whole story and backdrop of the situation, a reasonable interpretation is

- you are responsible for your actions but you cannot control the consequences of your actions due to many factors.

- When you detach yourselves from results, you can do your job without anxiety.

- do not let the fear over results be an excuse for inaction.

Give it a read and decide for yourselves if you are not convinced. Even without the teachings part, the whole story of Gita is actually an epic story/novel with some strong and conflicted characters with elaborate back stories.


What is the point of a job if not the results? How can you be responsible for your actions but not the consequences of your actions?


The point is worrying about results creates anxiety that takes away your focus from doing the job which results is lower performance -> subpar results - it is a recursive spiral. Also results are not "wholly" under our control. Hence avoid worrying about the results "while" doing it.

The final result of any action depends on a lot of external factors for e.g. one might develop a product, but whether it succeeds or not depends on other players, economy, luck and host of other factors that one does not control or know. This feeds into the first point about not worrying about the results.


> What is the point of a job if not the results?

The idea is to not fret over results and give your best with dedication. E.g. An athlete shouldn't be worrying about their results while playing and should focus on the play.

> How can you be responsible for your actions but not the consequences of your actions

I only mentioned control of consequences not responsibility. It doesn't mean you are absolved of responsibility from consequences of your actions.

Take driving. You can only control your actions but you cannot control what happens on the road. You are still responsible for your actions.

Should the fear of the unknown on the road stop you from driving? Absolutely not.


Yeah, I think GP is right and this all feels like word play to me.

Let's say you're making your ideal wood chair for your living room. You're "fretting" over getting the arms, legs perfectly aligned, surfaces smooth, identical chamfers, etc. But fretting is bad and makes it hard to get anything done so you stop. Then you end up with a roughshod chair.

You shouldn't "fret" too much, but you also shouldn't "fret" too little. You should "fret" exactly the right amount which is... tautologically true, and not particularly insightful. Giving your best is committing yourself to fretting.


(I'm not sure if you understood the Gita reference, if you did you can ignore my comment.)

A better analogy isn't so much a chair made by yourself, but say you're making a chair for a competition. The only thing you can control is your actions. What's out of your control is whether or not some other guy who's an absolute veteran is also planning to compete (making you likely to lose), or if almost no one else joined the contest (much higher chance of winning.)

Another example is in the workplace.

You control what efforts you put in.

But your promotion (or even firing!) depends on a ton of other things. If the company's doing poorly, they may not promote you even if you did a great job. Conversely, if the company desperately needs a new senior person and you're the closest fit, even if you just did a mediocre job, you may get selected.

What's common in both cases is - doing a better job is more likely to be better for you. But there are no guarantees you'll win/get promoted, so don't be attached to that outcome, but only your efforts/labour.


> You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you are not entitled to the fruits of action.

> stick to your lane and don't complain. I.e. the caste system

That verse is quite famous and the general interpretation as I understand is this.

You have control on your actions but not on its results. The results depend not only on your actions but on many other factors outside of your control.

Now, one can interpret that it is instruction to "stay in your lane", but I have not seen that interpretation so far in my life in India.


So, "have a go, do you best, shit happens, don't worry about it".


you realize that the caste system that currently exists is completely different from what it was conceptualized as right? you most certainly want to read the conversation between yudhistra and nahusha that talks about caste https://vedabase.io/en/library/mbk/1/30/


I don't think we actually know who conceptualized the caste system. Even Manusmriti seems to be not as old as we thought before.

However, even in Mahabharatha there are examples of Karna and Ekalavya who despite having qualities (as Yudhishtira claims) of Kshathriya, they were rejected by the society as being lesser.

It is possible that caste system is an extension and crystallization of nepotism. Typically professions and trade secrets are handed down the families and it is conceivable this was codified at some point far in the past.

To claim that caste system has a more philosophical foundation would be a bit of a stretch in my point of view, especially when it has been throughout the history being used suppress.


You need to understand the context. The quote in Gita was to motivate the best warrior of the time at the battlefront facing opponents who were mainly his cousins and uncles.

In that context the quote is about performing the duties you were born to do without overthinking the consequences.


the context makes it even worse. its a strange kind of tribalism that is being promoted here. "do what you are asked to without understanding the real consequences". btw war is actual zero sum usually.


War is often times even negative sum game.


Do what you are asked to ≠ Your duty.

Duty of a warrior is to fight for his country/tribe/side. Duty of a king might be to reduce suffering for his subjects.


Historically, no. It's like Tennyson: Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do and die.


the problem is that there's good stuff in here but expressed in such a compressed way that it can be misused and misread.

i completely agree with you and the post you are replying too. both are correct.


It’s a tricky philosophy to put into practice. I have oscillated between this approach (“owning” the effort) and “owning” the outcome. I have found that taking ownership of the outcome leads to better results because I have a personal stake in the outcome and I tend to think through the problem more deeply, but I am almost always left feeling more stressed and “empty” when the work is finished. When I focus on doing the best I can and let go of the outcome, the end result is almost always subpar which leaves me feeling frustrated, because I know it could have been better had I taken on more responsibility.


You’re right, it was 2014. I was there on HN when docker was announced by shykes. It was a godsend because I was getting bummed by the alternatives like LXC, juju charms or vagrant.

Here’s the announcement from 2013:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5408002


Nice find. Check out shykes commenting here on that thread!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5409678


I still prefer LXC to docker. Improving libvirt and making virtualization a first-class OS feature with a library interface - vs. relying on an external tool and company interested in monetization - was and is the right approach.


That's why I love Incus. It offers all three so you don't have to choose. OCI app containers, LXC containers and KVM.


Kindles are fun devices to hack and play with. I can grab an old kindle for €15-20 on eBay.

I did the same last year and had lots of fun in the process.

https://samkhawase.com/blog/hacking-kindle/


There is also the Xteink4[0] that can be purchased on Aliexpress. It's just an ESP32 with an e-ink screen.

It costs more and is smaller but when you are done playing around with it you can flash it with Crosspoint[1], carry it in your pocket and read books on an e-ink display wherever you are.

[0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoq17-1pJA [1] - https://github.com/crosspoint-reader/crosspoint-reader


I have the same Kindle as the OP and very nearly bought the Xteink4. However, they wanted $28 to ship to Alaska, which put me off buying it; my Kindle Touch still works fine after many years and one battery replacement, though it's slow compared to newer E Ink devices.


That sucks! Hopefully they start appearing on Amazon for similar prices.

I too have an old kindle but I just wanted something non-smartphone to help me read more.


For the less reverse-engineering prone among us, there are also similarly sized e-ink displays that plug into Raspberry Pi DSI ports for maybe $5 more on Aliexpress. They might actually be salvaged kindle screens.


Do you have a model number or link, please?


I seriously do not like people saying "it's on AliExpress". I'm sure it is, but the problem is quality control so a specific link is greatly helpful.


I'm afraid I can't really vouch for any specific one, it's been years since I've messed around with one and suppliers change their stock constantly.


Yeah, there's a ton of e-ink displays, most of them do not come with the controller or are replacement for kindle (how to drive those?) or are tiny.


I love it! Always fun to see the route somebody else took to get to the same end product.

Your post is making me want to try more Cloudflare Developer Platform stuff like Cloudflare Workers.


Can you start jailbreaking straight away, or does it require an internet connection and Amazon account first during setup?


I don't believe you need internet connection - IRRC jailbreaking steps were plug in the Kindle, drop the jailbreak folder into the root directory, then choose `Update` from the Settings screen.

The hardest part was finding the `Update` menu item. It's only visible if you go to Settings, then press the menu button again while on the Settings page.

Not sure if registering the Kindle was required.


Depends on the firmware of the device. Latest firmware (anything after version 5.18.5.01 - which released in October 2025) is currently not jailbreakable.

Jailbreak of any firmware after version 5.16.2.1.1 (June 2023) requires the Kindle to be connected and registered.

Anything prior to, and including this version, can be jailbroken with no registration.


Don’t connect it. I bought one for this purpose and it updated to a version that didn’t have a known jailbreak


Exactly. This sounds like a barber advising which haircut to get.


I am running XFCE on a 2019 vintage desktop. CachyOS and 16GB RAM. It is snappy and very performant for my needs and I work on it daily for software development


16gb of memory an. 2019 is not vintage lol.


2019 is also not vintage IMO.

Vintage would be my MBP Air from 2011 that also run Arch and XFCE on a 4GiB RAM.


I’m working on a modern transactional email API platform. Developers can bring their own AWS SES keys and freely use their own domains for sending emails.

I’m building it on Cloudflare Workers with advanced tracking, modern templates, and advanced webhook integration. Developers can also configure and schedule advanced workflows for their specific needs

The users can review their usage and performance using an intuitive dashboard.

Email is a crowded space and this is my first attempt at doing something indie at this scale. Wish me luck!


Sounds interesting, are you also thinking about inbound email?


Inbound emails using AWS SES make sense, but not planning that as the part of the MVP.

Is that a commonly requested use case for AWS SES users?


Good luck!


Kindles are amazing devices for hacking and turning into cute little dashboards. The kindle modding community is wonderful and full of people experimenting with it. If you have an old kindle, give it a new lease!

Shameless plug: I wrote about my experience here

https://samkhawase.com/blog/hacking-kindle/

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43822251


I love just how non-intrusive an e-ink dashboard is sitting in a room. Definitely can recommend it as a base device that gets you display, wonky Linux, a battery and networking in neat little package.

Also recently showed my dashboard here: https://franz.hamburg/writing/kindling-e-ink-dashboard.html


You don't need to ball out on eink for that.

An old oled android phone is even easier to mod for that.

Eink is like the Rust of displays for hobby projects. Everyone defaults to it even when it's not necessary.


That's an unfair criticism. Kindles and their eInk setup provide the perfect low-fi hacking experience that developers love. It's minimal, slow and barebones linux base makes it easier to hack für such fun projects.


> low-fi hacking experience that developers love

Well I'm a hacker too and I don't really prefer low-fi hacking experiences, or at least not that flavor. I prefer getting stuff done since my free time after work is limited.

Oh and I used to work with eink displays for a living, but they always end up gathering dust for my hobby projects because it's only good for very few niche use cases that most of the time are better served by the more flexible and practical available solutions, unless of course, your uses case is showing it off on the internet for clout because this time what makes it special is it uses eink even though it adds no benefit.

Like I said, the Rust of displays.


Fair enough. We all have enough eInk devices in our cabinets. To each their own .

What do you mean by “Rust for displays”? Bikeshedding?


What are you talking about, e-ink is much nicer for things like this. An OLED produces actual light, and uses way more power. I wouldn't want an oled display on 24/7 in my living room.

Everyone defaults to it because it's really nice actually.


>An OLED produces actual light

Actual light? As opposed to producing fake light?


I think they mean that even an OLED display will actively emit light. When, in contrast, the e-ink displays shown in the linked posts are unlit. That, for me, is the key advantage making the device blend in.


Turn down the brightness of the OLED and it also just "blends in".


It also features many examples from pre-Colombian South American cultures


I’m running CachyOS for a year now as my daily driver (non-work) on my ancient desktop from 2019 and ancient Nvidia card. It is very fast and smooth. I mainly use it to development using LLM sidekicks and it doesn’t break sweat. I use XFCE and just love how fast the experience is.


I use CachyOS as my daily driver and I gave up on i3 after few tries. It just doesn’t work.

I’m happy with XFCE now and it is very performant.


No issues with sway here.


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