The US and Israel have killed over 3,000 civilians in this war, mostly in Iran and Jordan. Iran has killed like 30. Their attacks are literally a hundredth of what they got and we're still trying to portray them as the bad guys. Don't get me wrong, Iran sucks, but not because of this
Not sure where you got these numbers. It's news to me that the US and Israel killed anyone in Jordan. The numbers I've seen are about 2000 Iranian combatants killed and 1600 civilians. We can compare those to the 30k-65k estimate of Iranian civilians killed by the regime.
What makes Iran the bad guys is that they intentionally target civilians, not the number of civilians they kill. If we want to play a number of civilians dead game we should add the Iranian civilians the regime has killed. So that would be Iranian regime intentionally killed 65,030 civilians and the combined US-Israeli force killed 1600 civilians while targeting combatants.
That Iran didn't manage to kill more civilians isn't for their lack of trying.
Iran has killed thousands of its civilians. The only reason it has only killed a few Israelis (excluding Oct 7) is because they can't easily get past Israeli defenses.
Iran has been "threatening, bullying, murdering and undermining" Israel since it was taken over by an irrational Shia theocracy. This war wouldn't be happening if Iran had behaved in a sane and rational manner over the last 35 years.
That country was safe, had a decent standard of living and high life expectancy and that despite the sanctions.
Without sanctions & active support I guess it might have surpassed UAE.
It seems to me, the US government that makes the citiziens of other countries as miserable as possible and despite these attempts Iran managed just fine.
And yet, despite all of american help bombing their universities, water treatment plants, power plants, bridges and child schools those ungrateful bastards are not throwing this "hated authoritarian government"
Fucking ungrateful bastards! I've read in Wikipedia and western media how caricaturally evil this shia government is on this shia population! 30.000 deaths! We have proof! a CIA report!!!
Or you were just reading confabulations, without a way to tell, corrupting your knowledge in the process.
In general, I believe the problem of our time (sociopolitical divide, echo chambers, propaganda, people getting pulled to extreme viewpoints ...) isn't so much about the difficulty to access truthful information (most people would know how to fact check their beliefs and assumptions given enough time and motivation), but about the constant information overload that makes this process impractical. You are essentially softening your brain into accepting large volumes of information as facts, unchecked, and pretend that it's a good thing. You essentially don't know anymore the extent of what you know. Worse, you no longer know how you came to know, because the underlying principles and processes of knowledge (natural laws, models, theories, ...) were not involved in the learning (you could assert that day means light, and that night brings darkness because you have seen it repeated extensively and convincingly, but you wouldn't internalise this knowledge through the model of the earth orbiting the sun, and so you wouldn't know how to generalize from this knowledge into thinking about seasons or do any abstract reasoning on your own).
That is to say, we should be much much more cautious about what and how we read and learn about stuff.
This is most definitely the issue, and I’d would say you can go a step further. There are groups of people who don’t know how to stay safe in the information environment, while others who understand how to shape the environment.
The latter group is able to shape the content available to the former.
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