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It's a different environment than the sun and other isotopes are fused. The plasma is a lot less dense, with a lot less pressure but much higher temperatures. The current technology will not generate other elements. And Gold etc are not created in the sun via fusion. they are generated by a different process involving stellar catastrophies.


It's a different environment which is in principle possible to recreate. First step is to get basic fusion working.


Only if you use the notoriously dangerous breeder reactors – otherwise there isn't enough fuel.


Breeder reactors are not "notoriously dangerous", they are just a little too expensive to justify their construction when the uranium is cheap (like it is now). Also, there are proliferation risks. However, these are not engineering problems nor scientific problems, breeder reactors are production-ready and safe.


I've never really gotten the "proliferation risk" in the context of US power production (or China, Russia, or even France, for that matter). We're talking about existing nuclear powers, they already have the capacity to make nuclear weapons. If they wanted more they would make more, for the simple reason that having nuclear weapons is table stakes for being a serious player in geopolitics.


Fast reactors present the possibility of prompt fast criticality in a serious accident. This could be worse than Chernobyl.


Minnesota can use wind, which is also cheaper.


Minnesota has anticyclones, which are periods lasting over a week with almost no wind.


No, you are correct.


So they are ignoring the laser efficiency as well as the thermal to electric efficiency? If you did the same for a tokamak, stellerator or Bussard, would you get a similar ratio?


Jup. Fusion research is necessary and funding should be provided. But it is not close to commercial or generative viability.

So there is at the moment no working design for a generator as a plant that produces more electricity than it takes in.


Yup? Absolutely not, nothing close to this has been achieved with other reactors.


The net energy gain is very slim and has to be converted to electricity to power the lasers – in doing so, there's so much loss, it is again NEGATIVE.

It's always the same…


As it always is with new, unproven things.


or fusion.

There are always these articles: net energy gain finally! and then: no not really.


Reminds me of solar. That took a century to get to where we are today where the net energy output is much greater than the energy needed to manufacture them.

It being hard and it requiring continual progress does not mean that progress does not occur.


How long has humanity been working on fusion? Wasn't Ivy Mike in the early 50's? Glaciers continually progress too, but it's not obvious on human timescales.


Correct. Nuclear fusion research should be funded and realistic goals be set.


…which is exactly what this is?


The net energy gain is very slim and has to be converted to electricity to power the lasers – in doing so, there's so much loss, it is again NEGATIVE.

It's always the same…


This isn’t the same; this hasn’t been done before.

New things are hard. Nothing truly worthwhile is easy.


Presenting the progress of fusion in such a way to give the impression that commercialisation is right around the corner has been done before.


Nothing like commercialization happens without an insane amount of work. It’s easy to criticize, hard to actually help.


Yes because it's hard to make fusion viable since 50 years my guy...

Am I talking to a ChatGPT instance or what is happening here. Let's find out :D

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Sure it exists, it is called compressed air. Even better with CO2.

Close to me is the oldest one, built in 1972 and still operational today: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraftwerk_Huntorf


We want Ornitishian dinosaurs, too.


Sauropods, particularly. And while we are at it, pterosaurs, which are not dinosaurs, and mosasaurs, likewise. All are equally plausible, meaning not.

The original article is actually promoting inventing new animals that look like dinosaurs. Or rather what we guess they looked like. We might be able to do that, someday.

Anything that looks like a sauropod would need solutions for all the problems anything sauropod-shaped would necessarily have had, and solved. There is no reason to think our solutions would match what they had, but we could anyway determine whether they were plausible solutions. My bet is on two-chambered auxiliary hearts all the way up the neck. (The null hypothesis is a volkswagen-sized heart and very, very thick artery walls, assuming new circulatory structures were out of reach.)


Sauropods are Saurischian not Ornitishian. But you are right, we want them too.

The vw sized heart was in a dinosaur show when I was a kid. Either David Norman or Bob Baker stood below a brachiosaur and told the audience about the heart. wow 30 years. Time flies.


Right, not ornithischian.

For those in the back, sauropods, despite appearances, run with the tyrannosaurs and birds, not the triceratopses and hadrosaurs. Or anyway walk. Or did.

My solution to their energy problem is eusociality: big Mama stays put and is fed by the small fry who range far and wide. They also tend her eggs. She eats their first-level output, then they eat her better-digested leavings. The digestion scheme is like rabbits, and addresses the problem that absorbing nutrients through a 2D intestinal wall scales badly to a 3D animal. If she doesn't need to heave her bulk around the forest, her energy needs are lessened. Meanwhile, the small fry don't need to digest everything all the way.

The small fry are no bigger than elephants.


Well that was the most interesting sci-fi-that-might-be-real I've read all week.


"Be sure to tip your wait staff."


Easy to forget the "Fail-Whale", too...


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