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How much land area, exactly, is another nation allowed to seize by force before it becomes unacceptable to you? It obviously is not that much given the tone of your message.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Lebanese_confl...


That's not the question I'm interested in. The question I'm interested in is whether it's correct to claim that Israel occupies "parts of Lebanon", particularly in the context in which the claim was made, next to the claim that it occupies Gaza and the West Bank.


I could have sworn that I saw a goalpost here. Why is it over there now?


The goalpost is "Israel's occupation of ... parts of Lebanon". Do you agree with tsimionescu that Israel occupies parts of Lebanon? Can you back that up?


Yes I agree, and yes, I have backed it up already.


Do you mean with the link to Wikipedia? Could you clarify exactly what part of it backs up your claim?


Yes, if you are able and willing to follow those sources you can end up on for example this United Nations page https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/unifil-statement-14-november-...

> In October, UNIFIL peacekeepers conducted a geospatial survey of a concrete T-wall erected by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) southwest of Yaroun. The survey confirmed that the wall crossed the Blue Line, rendering more than 4,000 square metres of Lebanese territory inaccessible to the Lebanese people.


Right, OK, I guess if you're complaining about some land about the area of an athletics running track then you are technically correct. I'm not sure that's what people would have understood by tsimonescu's original claim that Israel is occupying parts of Lebanon.

And what exactly is Israel doing there, on that land the size of an athletics track? Something very nefarious?


How much land area, exactly, is another nation allowed to seize by force before it becomes unacceptable to you? It obviously is not that much given the tone of your message.


My answer to that question is context dependent. I don't have a strong objection to Israel occupying 4,000 square metres of Lebanon.

But I think we're established the answer to the question I originally asked. Thanks for participating.


Dang, I'm writing this reply as a target of antisemitic hate. I am not strictly a Jew (though I am often mistaken for one due to both name and appearance). My relatives were hunted and gassed in WW2.

The poster you are responding to is making ha joke:ish observation (probably badly communicated) that the modus operandi in the Israeli Government is to label all evidence of their crimes "antisemitic" no matter how truthful they are, no matter how many facts, no matter how vile their actions look.

Netanyahu et al have nurtured a context where there is no difference between real antisemitic hate and valid criticism. He and the people like him equate truth to antisemitism. Something which hurts many of us.

Please understand this.


That was not at all obvious from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47136682 alone, which gave me quite a jolt.

We have to be proactive about moderating anti-semitism on HN—which does appear, unfortunately, though of course not in every comment that someone happens to read that way. There is huge variance in how people interpret these things and we do our best to be charitable. (Also, I had better add that we do our best moderate other types of slur in just the same way.)

Let's assume you're correct. Such a point needs to be expressed thoughtfully and substantively, not snarkily in a way that pattern-matches to a slur. This ought to be clear from the site guidelines: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." - "Eschew flamebait." - "Don't be snarky." - [etc.]

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


It might not be the most substantive comment ever made. But by now it is about as classic as the Stephen Colbert quote ”reality has a well-known liberal bias”, and I bet you would not consider that quote hateful near-bannable offence, versus Republicans, right? It follows the exact pattern, and has a similar connotation. There is a large contingency in power in Israel and the west who loudly considers the truth to be antisemitism. Therefore we have a duty (BECAUSE ALL OTHER WAYS HAVE CLEARLY FAILED) as human beings to mock them. And what better way to mock them (like a court jester) than to use their words against them?


There are others here who would strongly disagree with this view, or the other views expressed on here. Personally, I was startled by the post in question, even as I wondered what was actually meant by it. We all have to coexist on here.


Were you more or less startled by reading it here or hearing those words from the mouth of Itamar Ben-Gvir, Israel's Minister of National Security since 2022?


Here's a tip I learned the hard way: you can't assume that other commenters have seen or heard the same things that you have; and when they have, you can't assume that they have the same subset in working memory.

As I mentioned above, I was also startled by that post, because the obvious pattern-match was to something nasty.


Sorry, didn’t know that was your alt account.


Hmm - out of curiosity, what did I say or do that made you post this?


throwaway3060 said "Personally…" so I asked about their personal experiences and you answered as if it was you whom I asked.


You do not need to control the entire internet. Put time limits on connected devices. Use parental controls. Talk to your kids about what they do online. Set clear boundaries. Reward good behaviour. Talk to other parents to align these limits to avoid social issues among the kids.


We may be agreeing, I'm saying there is no battle tested, privacy safe technical method of verifying age online, and this the controls need to be in the physical environment and setting social standards for social media and phone use.


That’s not the fault of containers, I have significant Bluetooth and WiFi issues on my apple devices without running any containers.


Carbon is not the only concern here, it is also excessive water use, excessive land use, higher logistics pressure on ports and such which can be reduced if these are made to a higher quality and a reduced quantity.


I think perhaps Emacs does not support the `hidden` attribute?

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/...

If you check the source (not the DOM) the actual content is loaded in `<div hidden="" id="S:0"> ...` which is then moved/copied into the proper main content div in the DOM using a JS event it seems.


It must have sent it differently if the browser reports it can’t do JavaScript.


Hey! This looks great, and I appreciate the effort! But just opening the page at https://tui.hatchet.run/ causes my (admittedly old Intel i7 9700K) to spin up its fans and consume >30% of the CPU without me even doing anything. I don't think a TUI should do that.

I was also intrigued by it being a lot of Go dependencies as I have developed a bit of a fancy for this language recently.


Hi, thanks! To be clear, the demo there is merely a WASM-based Ghostty build which is rendering the TUI on a web page, just so people could try it out without needing to install anything. The actual TUI runs in your terminal. I'm guessing it's the WASM side of things causing the fans to spin, which you wouldn't see locally.


What if I want answers with a pro-facts and pro-scientific bias?


I had ChatGPT give me incorrect answers to a real life game theory problem.

I had ChatGPT tell me I was imagining an HR problem related to the women.

Grok got them right. My executive team got them right.

I'm not defending Elon, but after those 2 chatGPT failings due to moral coating, I unsubscribed and got Claude.


I mean, sample size of two.

Grok will also tell you it's MechaHitler, that Musk is fitter than LeBron James, and that he "would have risen from the dead faster than Jesus", sometimes. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/nov/21/elon-musk...

Maybe don't use chatbots for HR at all?


Grok is a meme-social-network-based chatbot.

How are people not making this distinction?

> Maybe don't use chatbots for HR at all?

Probably not!


But Grok was helpful. Why wouldnt I use something helpful?


Setting aside the fact that you're asking something naming itself MechaHitler HR questions - I'd be pretty careful asking it about illegal discrimination…

That's a great question.

> I unsubscribed and got Claude...


It wasnt a discrimination thing. They both wanted to be the 'prettiest girl at work' and hate each other.

I was looking for solutions.


Was the solution final?


Run the site by Qwen.


Certain areas can release more carbon than trees bind if there are trees there, for example peats (obviously not a desert) and tundras (more akin to a desert). These have often a lot of carbon bound in the ground which can be released.


This is a good point. We could extend it to computing devices: An adult gives a child access to a device, and now the adult is in the loop and takes responsibility. If said adult (parent, most often) want to automatically restrict certain activities/content on the device they can use the parental controls available. No panopticon required.


You can only keep the adult in the loop if you have a panopticon that traces back to said adult.


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