You can still stay pretty up to date (at least in AI) without even being on X, since everything distills out to every other platform anyway. Between /r/LocalLlama and the ThursdAI and Latent Space newsletters, I'm at most only a few days away from whatever the latest hype is.

For clarity here, "after" was 6 years later, once Meta and then the Chinese labs had already established the ecosystem

They don't need an excuse to not open the model weights (unfortunately). As far as I know the only western lab to release weights of a former flagship model is xAI with Grok 2. They said they were going to do the same for Grok 3 but nothing so far.

They have no obligation to do any open releases, it's just good PR for recruitment, fundraising, and devrel

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One thing we've always been exceptional at is thinking we're exceptional

Please add OG/embed tags. It's both polite and helpful to let people see what they're about to land on when someone shares a link on socials/discord

We use local models in data processing pipelines. Being able to do compute with language has plenty of use cases

> I'm not interested in adopting an inferior closed source weight from a geopolitical rival. The open source weights argument was the one thing China had going and that I was seriously cheering them on for. They could have been our saviors and disrupted the US tech giants - and if it was open, I'd have welcomed it.

Qwen is not the only Chinese lab, and the others have shown no change in their commitment to open source. Allegedly Qwen hasn't either if their recent statements are to be believed. They're just hoping to capture market share with *-claw customers before releasing an open weights version. We'll have to wait and see how before they decide to release that.

> the others have shown no change in their commitment to open source

I wouldn't call this totally accurate, especially as of late. What's closer to the truth however is that there's lots of second-rate players in China doing open models, that will be getting a lot more attention from local AI proponents if the big names seriously slow down their AI releases. The local AI scene as a whole is quite healthy.

> I wouldn't call this totally accurate, especially as of late.

What exactly has changed? Alibaba just released a bunch of new models and have said 3.6 weights are coming soon. The others labs have shown no signs of slowing down their releases either. Whatever you're referring to is news to me and likely most others.

There are plenty of examples in the RL training showing it how and when to prompt the human for help or additional information. This is even a common tool in the "plan" mode of many harnesses.

Conversely, it's much harder to represent a lack of doing something