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Didn’t she ban a lot of subreddits?


She's mocking the free speech line in that tweet.


Reddit has to make a lot of decisions, some were soon after she joined. Not sure CEOs of social media company get involved in making that decision personally, rather than name people who would -- Pao might be an exception, though.

From all the subreddits that were closed, I’d be hard-pressed to name one that I felt contributed to free speech.


She absolutely was intimately involved, a lot of her drama and changes were the reason I left that site for good.

She is correct in her tweet, however.

Also once upon a time reddit praised itself for free speech. It held itself to a higher standard... supposedly.


care to share the groups that were banned you disagreed with?


> I’d be hard-pressed to name one that I felt contributed to free speech.

As in US Constitution free speech? I can think of dozens.

r/SanctionedSuicide

r/DarknetMarkets

r/shoplifting

r/gore

r/watchpeopledie


I don't know enough about the situation to take a definite position.

However, it seems to me that free speech is intended to protect the expression of unpopular viewpoints. In that case, I think that we should protect people's right to advocate that suicide, shoplifting, or advocating watching people die should be legal.

However, as long as those things are not legal then it doesn't necessarily violate free speech to restrict the practices themselves or information on how to engage in the practices.


Actually spent quite a while going through the list of banned subs to eliminate contentious ones, gotta make commenters work for it :)

They are a US based website subject to those laws, even if those words posted on their site didn't violate laws, it's entirely legal for them to censor at will for any reason they deem ok.


r/DarknetMarkets was banned because of the FOSTA-SESTA anti-sex "trafficking" bill. The government forced Reddit's hand on that.


> contributed to free speech.

What does it mean to "contribute to" free speech?


In most cases, the subreddits openly advocated for crimes, often violent, which I understand is the type of speech that isn’t protected by even the most relaxed definition of free speech.


It's protected in the US. You can advocate for all the crime and violence you want: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action


Any apology would then upset their Chinese customers, like the NBA.


FIFA also bans politics from its platform.


I’m surprised to quote FIFA as an example but on that point, they have had fairly exemplary approach [0]. Players occasionally try to make political statements, and Fifa has a progressive take on infractions. An unexpected outburst after a victory is usually met with a stern conversation, possibly leaked to the press for good measure; repeated offence, something egregious acting after being explicitly warned not to lead to symbolic fines. You’d need to really cross a line to get near the sanction that Blizzard thought was appropriate for someone expressing a widespread sentiment in his home country.

[0] https://www.lawinsport.com/content/sports/item/politics-and-...


FIFA is also notoriously corrupt, so I'm not sure I'd be looking for them for ethical leadership. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FIFA_corruption_case


Blizzard dosen't give a shit about it being political speech, what they care about is that it might upset the Chinese Communist Party, and their profits in the process.

https://i.imgur.com/xQfRoPa.jpg

https://kotaku.com/college-hearthstone-players-who-held-up-f...

Them pretending otherwise is a complete, outright lie.


I didn't know that as I'm not up on soccer, but I'm not surprised. This is liberal ideology at its most pure, and it leads to a great many of the social problems we have today. Some know taking a moral position will disenfranchise some subset and reduce their income, and some know that society would recoil (usually rightly!) at their views if they were forced to spell them out.


Are you perhaps using "liberal ideology" in a way that's different than what I'm used to? It seems that Blizzard's decisions were made in service of Capitalism which is a belief system that I associate more with conservative rather than liberal ideology.


Just look at what Wechat is currently doing and you can get an idea of what Facebook will be doing in the future.


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