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> freer world

I guess that's sarcasm? I can't even eat a sandwich outside without fearing that it will be considered a picnic and get me arrested.


No, I haven't seen anybody talking about discord, just the subreddit/"redditors".


Those are all US companies. What does Europe have to do with them?

And like it's been noted many times before here, had Europe banned US companies like China had, maybe they would have a stronger software development culture, and they could control their own data instead of handing over everything to the US.


> and ongoing informing of consumers about dangers of sharing their data

I don't get it. What's the danger?


consider starting with the EFF privacy resource linked in my top comment.


Only on Windows 10 32bit, which according to steam stats, is used by 0.10% of users.


Yes, but the point is that you can only do that in some special cases like this one.


https://tic80.com/ (lua, open source - you can pay for the binaries or build it yourself)

https://liko-12.github.io/ (lua, open source, I haven't used this much, but it seems nice)

https://github.com/ftsf/nico (nim, open source. Not quite the same as the others, there's no IDE, etc. But it's a library with an API similar to PICO)


Nice thing about TIC-80: it has built-in support for Fennel[0], so you can develop games for it in a lisp-like language.

[0] https://fennel-lang.org/


(and Moonscript (coffee-script inspired whitespace-significant Lua variant, https://moonscript.org/), Wren (https://wren.io/), and JavaScript (unfortunately): https://tic80.com/learn §Specification)


Can it prevent the user from taking a photo of the phone screen with a different device?


It does not prevent, but most people will not bother.


if you let people like the user above you have their way without offering strong condemnation and resistance, it will eventually happen, yes



Overall, the benefits from more transparency are huge, and far outweigh the drawbacks.


To the collective maybe. Not to the individual.


Isn't a collective made up of individuals?


It's reverse insurance. With insurance, everyone pitches in so that no one is harmed irreparably. In this case, some people pay dearly for some (arguable) benefit to the collective.


It's interesting to read back over past discussion of this question. Among the more interesting academics is Herbert Simon, and his 1977 essay "What Computers Mean for Man and Society" makes a strong case for the positive impacts of increased utilisation of computer technology. It also specifically discusses the privacy concerns, in one paragraph.

That, unfortunately for Simon's case, contains an egregious factual error, though one which may not have been known to Simon at the time:

The Nazis operated with horrifying effectiveness and thoroughness without the benefits of any kind of mechanized data processing.

Screenshot:

https://mastodon.cloud/@dredmorbius/103059230160200494

Source:

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/a9e7/33e25ee8f67d5e670b3b7d...

Unfortunately, we're now very well aware that this was not the case. Not only did Nazi German prosecute the Holocaust with the extensive aid of mechanised data processing technologies, but they did so using American technology, provided and supported, with full knowledge, by IBM:

Edwin Black has documented this in his horrific book, IBM and the Holocaust (2012)

https://ibmandtheholocaust.com

https://www.worldcat.org/title/ibm-and-the-holocaust-the-str...

To paraphrase Lord Acton, it appears that data corrupts, and absolute data corrupts absolutely.


I don't understand what you're trying to say. Did computers 'corrupt' the nazis?

I'm pretty sure genocide predates IBM.

Is 'computer technology' bad? If so, why are you here?


stop gaslighting


Sorry, what?


I quite like nico: https://github.com/ftsf/nico

It's got similar functions to PICO-8, but instead of lua you write it in Nim, and instead of an integrated editor, you use whatever editor you want.

Perhaps most of all though, the author also wrote some pretty cool games with it, which are also open source, so it's proven tech and you can learn from them.


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