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My iPhone 13 can’t run most of these models. A decent local LLM is one of the few reasons I can imagine actually upgrading earlier than typically necessary.

I’ve got a 17 pro and tbh I haven’t found any use for local models yet. They are a neat curiosity but the online ones are absolutely massively far ahead. Considering they are being given away for free currently, it’s hard to justify not making use of them over dumber local models.

I’m expecting the new iPhone release this fall to be coupled with some great version of Siri/model. This could be the first reason I’ve seen to upgrade in a while (although even that I’m not sure of, as I am king of in the “always use the best model it’s worth it” camp.)

Apple has a great shot at making a highly optimized 4.5 version of this model highly tuned to the next gen iPhone, which could work great.


This is ridiculous and I’m into it.

I appreciate this idea. I don’t think it fits our current mental model of the web (or mobile), which makes it thought provoking. If you squint, it’s like the optimistic Web 2.0 era of open APIs expecting a bunch of various UIs and mashups to spring up. The business model could be challenging with the client-centric focus though, unless the adaptive browser slips ads in, which is an unpleasant thought.

Yes it’s not technically a scam because it’s legal.

But it has scam smells: layering, misdirection, lock-in, very fine print, gamification, adjacent complex social media apparatuses.

I’d place it near MLMs, loot boxes, timeshares, robux, liquidity mining.


Yeah, flying my family of 5 to Hawaii using skymiles accrued on my Amex. Totally a scam.

They’re basically interchangeable with cash. I don’t get the issue. The main frustration I have is that I cant buy myself a ticket with cash and then pay skymiles for my child. If they weren’t of an age that they must be on the same reservation it wouldn’t matter. Feels more like a limitation of Delta’s abacus that sits behind their mobile app.


It’s not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be, and the literal point of what I posted is to try and simplify it.

An MLM or timeshare it is not.

Yes, it has gotten harder than it was a decade ago. But it is far from a “scam”


Yeah a bunch of negativity about the business case instead of just appreciating someone sharing their work.


Yes my kids also hate it. They keep it muted and just watch for the visual indicator that the next section is available. It’s worse than the annual corporate compliance training that many adults have to suffer through. One thing to be optimistic about with LLMs is that even unattended poorly prompted vanilla coding LLMs won’t naturally produce such horrible software. It takes distinct human intervention to make it this bad.


Yeah I agree. It’s an acute problem on social media platforms where there’s a market force incentivizing it. If you’re mostly engaging in specific niche interactions with known communities or people, it’s not nearly so prevalent. The internet still works fine as a whole.


Surely this will end well. There are dozens of us who prefer to patronize corporations that aren’t actively evil.


There are dozens of us! Dozens!


Scores, even!


And being on the wrong side ofbthe current US admin is quite the net positive to the non-bootlicker class.


That’s a thought-provoking suggestion. Most services would go out of business, and there would be a cascade of change. I wonder what would remain?


Is it great? No. Is it usually good enough? Yes. CI shouldn’t be a main quest for most engineers. Just get it rolling early and adjust as needed.


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