It doesn’t sound like one app to rule them all, rather you can use one of the “approved” app of your choosing. I am guessing but given the main providers are all involved, I suspect it will mean you can use their app in anyone else’s spots, and they will continue to provide the underlying contract with the council.
If you’re leaning out, spend two weeks leaning in.
I did, and learned a ton, and likely not going back to how I was before, or how I used it a week ago.
The comments in the article about not reading the agent is good but it’s more than that…
Vibe coding is for non-coders. Yet, you get a feel for the vibe of the AI. With windsurf, you have two or three files open, and working in one. It starts smashing out the multi, interspersed, line edits and you know with a flutter of your eyes, it’s got your vibe and correctly predicted your next ten lines. And for a moment you forgive it for leading you astray when you read what it said.
We likely agree that firebase is superb. But your criticism of using ‘alternative’ is unjust both in terms of the breadth of firebase, and why a competitor might target someone about to choose Firebase.
Actually I think I'm just old. To me "Firebase" still means the "Firebase Realtime Database" but after they got acquired by Google, they took the Firebase brand and started building all kinds of features that would let non-backend engineers ship apps without needing a backend, including an improved version of the realtime database (Firestore).
Somehow I've always read "Firebase alternative" as "alternative to Firebase Realtime Database" but now I see that what Supabase & co mean is "stuff you can put on a server once and then you won't need to do any backend stuff anymore", ie the current positioning of the Firebase brand.
I stand corrected.
(sidenote, Google's Firebase acquisition has to be one of the best-executed devtool acquisitions right? Nobody would've been surprised if they had just gobbled Firebase up, spread the team across GCP, put the product on life support and after a year told customers to just move to GCP proper, somehow. Instead they realized that "GCP Easy Mode" was worth having a separate brand for and they executed excellently on that)
Yes - totally agree on side note. Took me a while to realise that firebase is now a high-level hat sat on top of GCP that you can take off, and put back on, as you please. Very neat.
It’s insanely lean to get started. But at the end of the day, its GCP underneath with GCP billing (i.e. no spend caps). The easy mode UX, and the risk of real expenditure, sit in contradiction to each other. Of course, there a very generous free tier to placate that. But things like realtime need to be used with real cost considerations, and not frivolously once you need a feature only available on pay as you go.
I think it's fair criticism and certainly an area where TrailBase can improve (it's still young). FWIW, I used to avoid the "Firebase" comparison and be more descriptive with a long list of features. That confused a lot of folks. Firebase-like seemed to get the rough product-ballpark across more effectively. If I had to guess, I'd say Supabase probably arrived at a similar conclusion.
Either way, they are all rather broad products and many users only use subsets.
Thanks for speaking up, appreciated.
Fwiw I changed my mind and I now think that your positioning is fine (see adjacent comment). Don't make it harder for people to grok at the behest of HN purists like me! :-)
Though that makes little sense in the context of a CDN. I think Bunny uses US providers like Zenlayer for their egress there, so they’re just a middle man in my understanding. I don’t think there’s any EU provider that runs their own CDN hardware infrastructure in the US.
Yeah but it’s like using a EU vendor that hosts on AWS, if the US government wants the data they’ll just subpoena AWS instead of the EU provider. I get that it’s better but anything hosted on US soil is under jurisdiction of the US government regardless of whether it’s ultimately owned by a EU vendor.
I used to consult for a Canadian firm. Their sales folks complained that prospective accounts from outside the US would often include in their negotiations something to the effect of “you need to service our account through a non-US entity.” This firm had no non-Canadian entity.
But it was a very well known tech firm, so the assumption was that it was American.
Turned out the objections from prospects got a lot more strenuous (read: deals from non-US prospects not closing) when the firm’s cloud services were only available through AWS in the US.
The US has started a war with many of its allies, including Europe. Obviously that means European users will be looking to remove hostile actors from its supply chain.
That said, if your audience is primarily in the EU or you just really want to keep your TLS termination on EU jurisdiction then you can configure a Bunny pull zone to route all traffic to their EU-based servers regardless of the origin.
This is supposed to exemplify my point: the attitudes of Mr. Zawinski may be questionable; however his contribution and his output are not questioned by anybody. We would all be worse off without these contributions.
The Musk headline was loosely tidied to someone arrested (whilst) praying *outside* and ignores the context of what was happening at the time, and for the many hours before the arrest. Minor details like that.
Happy to live in a legal systems where these devices are banned, and we can cross the road freely.
Wow the other comments on this thread are all ironic, exaggerated, and misleading.
A little context is necessary.
“Up to” is worth emphasis. Even if in an extreme scenario a 5 year sentence was disbursed only up to 2.5 years would be in prison (and likely far less), automatic release at 2 thirds in the worst case.
When you are being attacked by a government prosecutor these "up to"s matter very, very much. It allows them to force the acceptance of inappropriate settlements by waving the (very real) possibility of these "up to"s in your face if you try to actually have your case heard in a court.
"Rise of plea-bargaining coerces young defendants into guilty pleas, says report. US-style negotiations for reduced sentences in England and Wales raises fears of false confessions and lack of informed consent"
So much hyperbole that I thought the entire video was a spoof on the practice of making a Doom proof until about a minute in, where I asked aloud to an empty room, "Wait, this is real?"
Also, he forgot to credit the video itself, which has a really high production value! Kudos all around!
