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Another thumbs up for "An Engine, Not A Camera." A great book on the philosophy of financial modeling and how models influence the markets (the "engine"), rather than providing static snapshots of information (the "camera").


Yeah, he skipped over what might have been the most interesting part of the talk! I have a very cursory understanding of how the GIL works, so it would be nice to understand what's going on here.


He referenced a previous talk about the GIL:

http://blip.tv/rupy-strongly-dynamic-conference/david-beazly...


Believe it or not, there's a novel that combines pretty much all these things: Charles Stross's "The Atrocity Archives." If you're into sci-fi, you need to check this out. It's a bizarre but hilarious mashup of James Bond, Slashdot, Office Space, and H. P. Lovecraft.


I would actually recommend A Colder War, which actually mentions a subterranean lake, and is also available to read online for free: http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm


SPJ actually discusses this a bit in his talk. He says that Haskell has tried to achieve the ease and intuitiveness of imperative programming through things like the "do" syntax sugar for monads. He agrees that there's still plenty of improvement to be made; on several occasions he jokes about how Haskell programmers envy other programmers' ability to get things done quickly.


He's also joked about making strict/eager (non-lazy) eval the default. I think the heart of the joke is that learning haskell (and all the GHC extensions) involves a lot of staring at error messages, type signatures and the rest of hte code and trying to make associations.


Duke's name comes from a tobacco businessman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Buchanan_Duke


For a few minutes, there was only a line of text at the top of the NYT home page. It took them some time to put up an article.


Along similar lines, Scott Aaronson recently wrote a long essay entitled "Why Philosophers Should Care About Computational Complexity." http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=735


That was a really good essay; I strongly recommend it to anyone who enjoyed, say, Hofstadter's GEB.


The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy is an amazing resource. Anyone even casually interested in philosophy should check it out.


I read this earlier. It was fantastic


That's already very common practice, and unfortunately it's not very effective. Bear Stearns was 30% employee owned [1], and Lehman was 25% employee owned [2]. All that stock became worthless when the firms blew up.

[1] http://www.nceo.org/main/column.php/id/282 [2] http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122117966831526067.html


Trying to use compensation to reduce the risk that a bank can fail is a fools errand. What we want to prevent is "too big", failure is healthy. My plan would reduce the amount of government intervention required during a failure (clawback), and it would also provide incentive to not be too big.


I have a pet theory that this solution might work if the restricted stock was very long-term--say it vested quickly but you couldn't sell it for a mean time of 15 years. The idea is to get the stock to be longer lived than the bank's liabilities. To my knowledge this has never been tried, and you'd probably need to pay significantly larger amounts of stock to get people to go along, and anyway this is pure speculation from a non-expert.


Then people will trade options on this locked-in stock, as some employees of forever-pre-IPO companies do.


But the price of those options will reflect people's view of the value of them 15 years out.


If investors could make accurate predictions of what securities would be worth 15 years out, then we wouldn’t be seeing financial blowouts every 15 years.


Sure. I never said they'd be accurate; the point is simply that if you want someone to give you money for bank stock that can't actually be sold for 15 years, you'd be unlikely to get a particularly good price for that, especially if it were in a climate where there's a high likelihood that the bank is quite likely to go bust long before that.


They answer a few of these questions on their FAQ: https://banksimple.com/faq/

* They are not a bank. They are essentially a web frontend for wholesale banks. Thus they are regulated differently.

* You do have the benefit of FDIC insurance, but it's unclear what ability you have to access your funds directly from the wholesale bank, or whether you are limited to BankSimple.


That's correct. We're also using Visa for processing.

You can read more about our partners here: http://banksimple.com/blog/BankSimple/partners-funding/


How is BankSimple different from mint.com searching through my Bank of America account statements? Alerts? Goals? I can do all that in mint.


If they do get categorization significantly better, I'd jump - I have to change something like 1/4 of my transactions in Mint, and the partial data I see is rarely descriptive enough to help much (not sure why it's partial - legislation? decision? I hate it either way). I can't make categorization rules specific or broad enough, and always always need to double-check everything. I like it, but it's a PITA.


We're a substitute for your bank, i.e. you'd use a BankSimple debit card, use our website or mobile app for payments and deposits, speak with our customer service representatives and so on.


My question is what does that buy me? Switching from an established bank to a mint.com like interface + an unknown bank that holds my deposits. There's no killer app to sign up for your service. Killer apps that I could think off are, (Holding deposits in multiple currencies, Savings account like interest on my checking. Right now the funds I park in checking for immediate expenses don't accrue interests till I move it to savings, Free payment gateway integration, so I could transact with anyone having a credit card like paypal, Free money transfers to any third-party bank in any currency in any country(you could kill western union with this)). Saying that I could grep through my statement more efficiently and visualize the data doesn't cut it as a market disruption.


I think the killer app is that this is a bank that actually cares about their customer's experience (because they know it's one of their big competitive advantages), and is coming at it from the standpoint of techies who understand what should be possible. In itself, that's not a checkbox on a feature list that you can line up against the other banks, but it should show itself in myriad ways as they rederive what a bank is from first principles. They're obviously not done. If they keep pushing, that's exciting.

Also, since they're likely to be run much more cost efficiently than most banks, they should be able to do a lot of things without the normal gotcha fees.


I get all that from First Republic now. Great web tools, no-fee access to any ATM, and fantastic phone support.


I'm not just looking for a bank that does the standard stuff somewhat better, or is nicer to me. There is a lot more that could be done. Wealth management related startups like Mint have scratched that surface, but with an end to end implementation of a bank and all the tools and data that brings, a lot more becomes possible.

Also, First Republic's site looks like something made with a table layout in the 90s and left alone since, so I doubt that they're doing anything innovative on the consumer facing side that requires any amount of tech expertise.


Admittedly my finances are pretty simple, but my bank is something I really don't want to think about much or spend a lot of time dealing with. Maybe if someday I have a lot of wealth to manage I'll feel differently. The most important thing is that I can always get somebody on the phone right away that is informed and helpful.

First Republic's web tools aren't going to win any design awards but they do the job and have never given me any trouble.


That's what I am wondering... I was under the impression that it was a new type of bank, not budget software. I'm a little concerned for my very similar named product BudgetSimple (http://www.BudgetSimple.com) which has been out for years both because of the similar name, and now seemingly similar space...


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