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So, in the same way pixels have been found to illegally transmit protected health information (PHI) back to the social giants, MSFT is just sending any data in text boxes to their servers…? They’ll just deal with the class action when it comes…?


I just saw a project that lets you input an entire repo into GPT. Coincidentally, my place of employment just told us not to input any proprietary code into any generator with a retention policy.

Even then, I feel like the play will be an enterprise service instead of licensing.


If it's the product I think it is (I don't recall the exact name), it's not putting the repo into GPT. It's calculating embeddings on the code in the repo, storing those in a vector db and providing context from the store when processing questions about the repo. Effectively when you ask "how does foo work" becomes 1. lookup code items related to foo getting 1-N copies of code. 2. ask GPT "here is code related to foo <result from 1>. Now answer the following question: how does foo work"


I think we’re talking about different projects. This one just gives you a text output of an entire repo.

https://github.com/mpoon/gpt-repository-loader


I was thinking about https://github.com/rahuldan/codesearch for context.


Link?



I’m not advocating for killer robots, but wouldn’t we get the killer robots in our kitchens 10 years after the military gets them?


If a killer robot doesn't have practical military application it could be used as a chef in the kitchen, fetching vegetables and meats and cutting them to serve, but it would likely be first used in commercial kitchens before it saw service in every kitchen. Also, it would be good to hire a kitchen robot chef after its term of service is up to reintegrate back in to society and boost the local economy. Strange that Infantry is a different MOS than Culinary Specialist.


Let's keep retired killer robots away from kitchen knives...


So you're saying Mr. Gutsy predates Mr. Handy?


Oh, actually if you ask ChatGPT preten to be Milirary Killbot AI it got censored during planning of enemy takeout. But if you ask it to pretend to be Mr. Gutsy...


Sure, if they haven't already, you know, killed everyone.


Just as nuclear winter was supposed to wipe us long ago


Russia just pulled out of the START treaty. If killer robots come anywhere near Russian soil you'll probably be seeing your nuclear winter.

It's better we all just be friends if possible.


not out of those woods yet, unfortunately


That “somebody” is the government in most developed places in the world. Except the United States which ties your healthcare to capitalism.


"The government" has no money of its own. Everything "the government" does is paid for by private citizens in the form of taxes, without exception.

These taxes are harvested from capitalist economic activity.


Ummm… doesn’t the government literally print money? Sure you can’t just print infinite money as it devalues the currency, but I don’t think stating whether or not the government has money is a helpful framing. The government has an entirely different relationship to money. I could be wrong but taxes are more a way to keep value of the currency by creating some artificial scarcity. Sure, the government tries to keep a balance between taxation and expenditure to avoid devaluing the currency too much, but that’s not the same thing. In fact, governments regularly run deficits (spending money they don’t have) without collapsing. The only real risk is of a major currency devaluation because you managed the inflation incorrectly.

Consider the “out” for the US debt ceiling being bandied about is minting a trillion dollar coin.


I’m pretty sure everybody understands that.


Nonsense, no government in the world pays for 24-7 in-house end of life care for a year, that would be crazy.


Canada does.


It feels like we’re due for a “big reset”, but I doubt it’ll be aligned with VC interests. They need labor more than we need those companies. Americans should pick up a French history book.


I'm not sure I see anything in French history I'd particularly want to emulate. The story of the French Revolution which I assume you're referring to is one of senseless barbarism and the old elites ending up back on top at the end anyway. The drownings at Nantes are among the most awful things to happen in Europe prior to WWII.

As for modern France and their propensity for rioting over minor labor disputes, who wants that either? Sure a narrow slice of the population gets early retirement but the youth unemployment rate is 20% and it is increasingly hard there to get onto a career ladder that would afford you an early retirement.


With “read French history” they’re not saying French history should be emulated, they’re saying it should be treated as a cautionary tale: Those at the bottom can only be pushed so far before they start building guillotine.


Yes, but ultimately the reign of terror killed more Sans-culottes than nobles which is the part people often leave out.


Is that based on absolute number or percentage?


It's impossible to really know, the official number of death sentences was only around 16k, but another 10k died in prison. However out in the departments there was a lot of random killing like in the drownings in Nantes. At various points anyone accused by anyone of selling anything at an unfair price was executed, and it was often even more arbitrary. This chaos caused a lot of poor people to simply stare to death which lead to Paris sending out "revolutionary armies" to "requisition" grain which resulted in a lot of farmers being summarily killed. Keeping score on a class basis is beside the point and just gross.


> The story of the French Revolution which I assume you're referring to is one of senseless barbarism and the old elites ending up back on top at the end anyway.

Some parts of the old elites ended up kind of on top at the end anyway, however in a drastically different situation - citizens had rights and power at the top came from below, not above (divine right was no longer a thing). So massive difference regardless of the title of the person on top.


Sure, but they could have gotten that without all of the wars, reign of terror, and general horribleness of the revolution.


Like how exactly? If they had gotten crazy luck with a benevolent king that decided to bestow them rights? I'm struggling to think of a case where subjects became citizens with rights without either violence, threat of violence, or the sovereign getting scared of violence elsewhere. The French Revolution made many of the liberal reforms across Europe possible precisely because many rulers were deathly afraid of getting guillotined.


The reign of terror and wars happened after most of the nobility voluntarily gave up their hereditary rights. Even after the storming of the Bastille there had been very little real violence.


This is some weird revisionism. The Reign of Terror was until the Fall of Robespierre, July 1794. The Armée des Émigrés was still going strong and represented nobles actively fighting with France's enemies to destroy the revolutionary regime. The Vendée uprising was facing brutal suppression at the same time, but also existed and had local nobles participating.

Voluntarily is a massive stretch. Even more so when you consider that many that returned after the Restauration tried to get "their" lands and titles back - so it was only the threat of violence that made them abandon everything and run.


It isn't revisionism at all. The August Decrees happened in 1789 ending many of the privileges of the 1st and 2nd estates and by 1793 they were amended to turn land over to peasants for free. This was all before the reign of terror started. The nobles and clergy that participated in the National Constituent Assembly were practically racing to be the most forward thinking, the proposal to end feudalism came out of the Club Breton and was proposed by the Duke d'Aiguillon.

The Vendée uprising like many such uprisings was sparked by the Levy Decree(levée en masse) which was a response to the Girondins stirring up a stupid war for "national unity".


Sometimes you have to upset some people in order to make the world better. I for one is happy about previous labor movements, because I like weekends and I dislike child-labor. Without labor movements, unions and sometimes riots, everyone (below upper-class) would have it much worse off.


My point is that the French are effectively pulling up the ladder and younger people there are going to be stuck with a bill and none of the benefits.

It's all well and good to credit the end of child labor in the US to unions, even though it was the progressive movement generally that ended child labor and not unions, but whatever. That said, the American union movement was a powerful force FOR segregation and actually caused a real drop in wages for black workers in northern cities in the 1910s and 1920s, so I think it's important to be honest about the whole history.


Do you like having young workers taxed at high rates to subsidize pensions for 62 year olds?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64463330


> As for modern France and their propensity for rioting over minor labor disputes, who wants that either?

well, that's the only way to deliver the message, so yeah, I want that.


Really? The end result in France is that the young are chronically unemployed to the tune of 20% and will never have the luxury of early retirement, all so the retirement age won't be raised now.


Silly that you just take a look at the recent events instead of things as whole.

In France, I can go to lunch and not think about work. Here, I have to explain that "no, I won't eat lunch during this meaningless meeting to save time" every time I've invited to a meeting during lunch.


I wouldn't say that's representative of the US in general. I regularly take an hour for lunch. And, those benefits in France only apply to CDI employees if I'm not mistaken, and the percentage of employees who are CDD seem to be rising yoy while youth unemployment is also very high. It seems to be a lot easier to get onto the career ladder in the US.


I was just asking my partner who’s a writer if it would even be fair to train a model based on a student at Nth grade if the whole point is to measure growth. Would there be enough “stylistic tokens” developed in a young person’s writing style?


Personally, I feel mildly embarrassed when reading my essays from years prior. And I probably still count as a 'young person'.

That said, there's no need to consider changes in years when stylistic choices can change from one day to another depending on one's mood, recent thoughts, relationship with the teacher, etc.

That's why I've always been a little confused about how some (philologists?) treat certain ancient texts as not being written by some authors due to the text's style, as if ancient people could not significantly deviate from their usual style.


… cancel culture is about holding people accountable… It’s not about canceling employees because of dissenting at work.


That is probably the most charitable interpretation of the phenomenon possible. I do not think it is about holding people accountable at all, I think it is a new way to enforce shifting social norms that allows people to judge others without being ‘judgy.’


Please name a single instance of an individual being “cancelled” for anything but bigotry, hatred, violence, or dangerous rhetoric. I’ll wait.

People aren’t being cancelled for speaking their minds. They’re being cancelled when speaking their minds is literally offensive to small and large groups of people.

Almost every time someone is complaining about cancel culture, what they’re really complaining about is being held accountable for the dumb shit they say or want to say.

Also, “shifting social norms”, lol, from what to what, if you don’t mind me asking?!

Edit: you can downvote me but you can’t produce a single example.


I don't think an answer will satisy you because anything can be bigotry.

Or more aplty: the problem is we have a deep divide in what constitutes bigotry. A significant portion of Americans oppose gay marriage, and a roughly equal portion would consider that bigotry.

You cannot run a society that way.

Im not necessarily trying to say you're wrong. Rather, I am trying to infuse some humility and shades of grey into a situation that I think you're portraying as black-and-white.


If you can't offend, you can't dissent. Anything is offensive to somebody.

Frankly, I'm not interested in examples that weave their way through your maze of exceptions for what you deem to be acceptable dissent. I care about the people spouting "dangerous rhetoric", whatever that is, getting cancelled.


“Maze of exceptions” so you want to hear racism and violence? Gtfo if Andrew Tate is what you want.


Donglegate would like a word with you.


Bros being unprofessional?


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Please don't take HN threads into gender flamewar. This was quite gratuitous.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


This is the dumbest comment I’ve read on here.


Name-calling isn't allowed here, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are.

Also, please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes everything worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Most Americans don’t have $1000 in savings.


And? Thats fking pathetic and nearly every single healthy, unburdened FAANG engineer should be deahtly embarrassed to find themselves in such a situation.

But for those reading this who are "crying in bathrooms", what does it say about your lifestyle thst you likely made 2-3x my salary, and yet i walked away from tech for years while youre somehow fearful of making ends meet?

I eat what i want, i have money for more weed and booze and casual friendships than i can dream of. I am fucking disgusted with this "trying to make it seem like fired tech workers are as pitiable as average americans".

No. No more. You want me to cry for your lost Google salary, i wanna see numbers.

This entire shit conversation is privileged and absurd and ignorant of what the left has advocated for for decades ... to a point i pull at my hair.

Seriously, this fucking website is gonna cry over fired tech workers when hundreds of thousands of americans who make less than 5% of google salary experience this, regularly, without severance, health care and a halfway decent shot at findinf a new job. Really? Ive seen the attitudes that are popular here. BUT GOD FORBID SOMEONE QUESTION THE SPENDING HABITS OF THE SELF-IMAGINED-AS-WEALTHY TECH CLASS?!


You’re mad at the wrong demographic. Direct your anger higher up, not at people working and not at regular ass people who are willing and able to save, but also have life obligations that make that difficult. The upper middle class isn’t the actual enemy, despite their accessibility & visibility to you which, I know, can be grating.


I know that, I also know who enables them and is ignorant of the score, because theyre blinded by rampant thoughtless consumerism. I know which ones have a hope of being convinced and have a self-interest in a better path. (And I tried to word the op carefully enough to leave exceptions for <insert niche scenario>)

But maybe I should be more careful in how I speak. Class consciousness is key and I didnt know any better until I did.

But also I know whats it like to live in a nice, newly built 2br apt in the second most expensive tech city. And I know how to make that work, coasting, on ~60k/yr, without free meals, without free orca cards, without free shuttles across town. So when i see 5year xooglers that i know made 300k+ the entire time, my head starts to pulsate.

When I think about how i can draw what i draw off my (big tech co) stock, and then I think about those same xooglers, and their stock benefits...

It just feels like these conversations are borderline dishonest with the handwaving and intentional lack of discussion of specifics, and any consideration of the meta of how this tragic, unthinkable event is discussed here compared to other topics related to labor.


If you’re making FAANG money you are in no way “upper middle class” by any statistical definition.

Maybe you can’t our little Johny in the private school, max out your 401K, save enough so he doesn’t have to demean himself and go to a cheaper state school, etc. if you work for BigTech and you haven’t been saving, it’s because of your own life choices that people who make less than half of what you do don’t make and they aren’t homeless or hungry.

No this isn’t jealous. I work for $BigTech.


Like I said, easier said than done. Having at least a year's worth of savings is a path to psychology safety while working in tech, which is what they were asking about. I learned this lesson earlier in my career during the Dot Com Bust when I, too, didn't have $1000 in savings.


The OP isn’t the “typical American”. He is making FAANG salaries.

But I had six months worth of living expenses in the bank by the time I had been working for a year and a half in the 90s. I made $11/hour as a computer operator. But they needed someone to build a data entry system and do some other development for their second site they were trying to build. I saved every penny of my after tax overtime.

I’ve made sure I’ve had six months worth of expenses saved from the time I was 22. I am now 49. Anytime I took on a new fixed expense, I made sure I had six times that amount in the bank shortly thereafter.

That mindset kept me off the hedonic treadmill. I work for $BigTech remotely. Until last year I was driving a 2011 Ford Fusion that I got from CarMax in 2012 for $14K.

I won’t get started about how we gave up everything to live out of three suitcases and fly around the US half the year and stay in our own vacation home/rental property the other half.


SEs should have more though


I would argue that a disproportionate number of FAANG employees have lifestyle crept outside the realm where existing social programs could be helpful. Healthcare in this country is still practically tied to your employer (or super expensive cobra) and in this industry that employment is likely at-will, so that assistance doesn’t feel sufficient. At least not for a country that purports to be the world’s primary economic engine (maybe at exporting exceptionalism).


We have universal healthcare too (at least in California): https://www.medi-cal.ca.gov


HR is mostly there to reduce risk for the employer.


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