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I'm a bit of a fanboy, but exe.dev + their Shelley web agent is pretty great

Why do you like exe.dev over other providers? Just curious, I haven't tried any yet but I am interested.

Up to 50 VMs with your shared resource pool for $20/mo, just all their unique features like http integrations and Shelley of course is just native, their exeuntu image has everything you need. Build with Shelley, no need to deploy it's already on the VM (tell Shelley to setup systemd to "productionize" it) with a my-vm.exe.xyz url with auto-https via exe's https proxy where you can keep it private to your exe login or make it public (no auth through the exe https proxy).

I'd say try it out you won't be disappointed.


Very neat, thank you for sharing :) will probably take it for a spin soon

I might use this if it supported any old cloud or VPS, and was at most $10/mo. The fact that you have decided that this platform should only live in your own custom cloud is unappealing to me.

Or, open source it and let us run it on our own VPS and keep your expensive cloud for those who want to pay. As it stands would never consider it.


Thanks a ton for the feedback. Yeah, this is something we'll try to solve in the long term. One of the things that makes this work really smoothly for setup and speed is the ability to have a template box that you can instantly snapshot and fork (disk and RAM) to spin up new machines. There aren't many sandbox providers that do that well for running a full app and development environment, but I'm sure there will be more over time. And the per-second pricing means that you only pay when your agent is running.

You could use VPS, but spinning up and down boxes on inactivity takes a long time, and making changes to the template for new machines is less trivial there. If you're only paying for 1 VPS box, then you lose the "multiple independent machines" benefit, and I imagine things start to get more expensive even in the VPS world when you have 10 of them running at the same time (one per thread).


Don’t bother listening to people who give you feedback that your product should be free. They aren’t going to buy your product no matter what you do.

Pretty sure you could accomplish this in a large physical server or even a huge resource VM (that has KVM passthrough) with some sort of microvm technology? Then that would obviate the need for "multiple cloud instance per coding thread", it would just be a microvm on the large server.

Then again, I'm just the guy running his mouth, and you guys are the ones actually doing the work :)

BTW, looks very polished and thought-through, I may have to still give it a try!


Nope you're exactly right - we're using microVMs today (Firecracker VMs via E2B) and running that same shape but on customer-owned machines is definitely one approach we're looking into.

And thank you!


I'm building something like this that you can run in your own cloud!

https://flexenv.com/

It's nowhere near advanced as boxes.dev but it's built on the premise of running on any cloud. Indeed I have it running on two different bare metal server providers and I'm about to add a third (Azure) as I'm using my day job as my first customer.

Can I grab your contact details and schedule a demo?


My project is kinda sorta similar but uses Incus (LXC) and Caddy: https://github.com/jgbrwn/vibebin

Harkens me back to Sun/Sparc hardware and Solaris.

I've heard non-Pro isn't nearly as good for coding as Pro?

Would humans be cheaper?

It's not about humans vs LLMs. It's about where the sweet spot of LLM usage by humans is.

OVH has FreeBSD templates. And most KVM VM/VPS providers will allow console access and mount custom ISO to install whatever you want.


No one will ever do this, or definitely not enough people will, so what's Plan B?


Bigger portion of the payout for those that do?


Huh?


Is it multimodal/vision?


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