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In every instance that I was bullied and the bully stopped messing with me, it was because I stood up for myself, either by telling the kid off or slapping/punching the kid in front of all their friends and embarrassing them.

Anecdotal, as every case of bullying is different, but it seems to be the more efficient solution than telling the teachers/administration, who do little to nothing about it.


Yep. I'm working as a COBOL developer now and the language itself is fairly simple to read and write. The hard part is learning the systems in place and how everything talks to each other, since the systems have been in place since before I was born and have just been growing ever since.


I would think it'd mostly be a PR nightmare and they wouldn't be liable financially for any damages since the device has been recalled. Headlines like "Samsung device causes airplane to go up in flames" would really take a hit on Samsung's bottom line because of one of their customer's stupidity.


OTOH, "well, they said they'd use a kill-switch, and then the gadget went boom, near damn killed me" would probably be the worst-case scenario: hence the killswitch would need to be a full and complete bricking (is that even possible with current-gen devices?)


I actually carry a big purse when I go to the movies to keep everyone's snacks and drinks from the dollar store down the street, just for this reason. If the movie theater's snacks/drinks were reasonably priced, I would consider forgoing the dollar store and just buy it there to save time.


Keep in mind some theatres threaten an up to $1,000,000 fine for bringing outside food into the theatre. Silly, but I guess they feel it undermines their services?


I'd love to see that hold up in court.


I really feel for all the students who are so close to graduating and not knowing if they'll have anything to show for it.. And their credits will most likely not transfer to another school because of the different accreditations.


That their credits had virtually no chance of transferring to any other institution --- a point ITT was forced to make on its own website --- is a pretty good reason not to allow it to be the beneficiary of billions of dollars of public financing.


I've seen some discussion of letting credits transfer using something called Prior Learning Assessment, essentially having the student prove they've learned the material taught in various courses at the receiving institution.

http://suburbdad.blogspot.ca/2016/09/friday-fragments.html

Transfer of any sort tends to be tricky. You rarely get anything close to parity, particularly in core courses.


Most schools will let you test out of pre-reqs if you get the right people on board. I've never heard of a school accepting prior learning as credit hours.

If that were the case anyone who figures out what they want to do and starts doing it in high-school would test out of a year or so worth of classes right off the bat. This would be particularly prevalent in STEM where there's a lot more test and "prove you know the material" based assessment compared to the humanities where there's more emphasis on producing a particular volume of work that meets a particular quality benchmark. Lots of STEM programs would be financially screwed if they couldn't bankroll themselves with huge freshman classes full of people who will change majors.

I got the ethics requirement for CS waved. I was a transfer student who had taken two semesters of business law, two security management courses, one class on computer and Internet specific law and crime and even then it was an uphill battle. After that they reworded the requirement to drop the "or take a series of comparable classes and obtain approval by the department" clause. My observation was that being as mostly dependent on tuition bred a "fight for every penny" attitude like you'd see in an insurance company which obviously caused a lot of inefficiency.


> If that were the case anyone who figures out what they want to do and starts doing it in high-school would test out of a year or so worth of classes right off the bat

Which is bad for the bottom line, but would be the disruption that higher ed needs. Face it, universities' USP is now being credentialing machines, learning can be done quicker and better from internet moocs/OCW/video lectures/tutorials.


Online/remote learning is a good alternative if you want to get an overview of a topic or expand your knowledge. However, I don't think that you can replace a proper scientific university degree just by online learning.


> Transfer of any sort tends to be tricky. You rarely get anything close to parity, particularly in core courses.

Depends on the school. I transfered from Northern Michigan University to University of Wisconsin, Green Bay. Most of my courses transferred and fulfilled most of my gen-ed requirements.


That's true - and as a taxpayer, I don't relish the idea of funding things like this that are taking advantage of people... but I have to admit I feel a little icky at the thought of pulling something that might act as a ladder of economic mobility - even for just a few people - out from under them. It's like we're saying to people that don't fit into the "traditional" mold of college-goer: "You can't go to ITT any more"... OK, but what do they take on to better their station now? I just can't think of a great anwser to that, other than bloviating about theories of "post-scarcity" that do nothing to help these people and it makes me feel bad.


ITT was anything but a ladder of economic mobility. It preyed on those people who most needed that mobility. The institutions you're squeamish about harming are community colleges, which have much cheaper tuitions and actually do educate students.


Yep, community colleges are where it's at. I started at a small local college a half-step up from a community college as it offered 4 year degrees. Got a year's worth of credits there to establish a good record and then transferred out to an ivy.

My brother got his 4 year degree from the same college, moved onto a master's at a bigger school and is doing quite well.


The problem with for-profit schools like ITT and Phoenix is clearer when you see those companies as a sustained effort to profit by delegitimizing community college.


By positioning themselves as the no-nonsense-career-training, direct-path-to-a-job alternative? Is that what you mean?


I think that is maybe where my uncomfortable feeling comes from: community college seems like an "extension" of the grand idea of higher education (which is awesome for people that want that!)- become a more well-rounded person, read the classics, learn history and art appreciation, etc. etc. - it's what I did, and I enjoyed it... but I know I'm not everyone. I grew up in a very poor place where it might just serve people better to "learn the things you need to know to pass for XYZ 9-5 job" and from what I read ITT (sort of) fit the bill. I worry that we're saying "You can't do that - you have to go try and be a well-rounded renaissance man/woman"... now I know that with federal money, maybe we have the right to say it, but still...


Community colleges (at least the one's I've seen) tend to have both traditional academic programs intended to fill the lower division of a classical four-year college program and vocational programs leading to a two-year degree or vocational certificate (or where you might just take a few ad hoc classes for career advancement without enrolling in any kind of certificate/degree program.)

The idea that the ITTs of the world are more effective for vocational education than Community Colleges is a product of the massive marketing campaigns of ITT-style for-profit institutions more than any reality, as far as I can tell,


I went the community-college-then-university route as well. I got enough credits to get an associate's degree before transferring and was able to put that on my resume, which I feel got me some attention when I was applying for part-time programming jobs as I finished my bachelor's.


> what do they take on to better their station now? I just can't think of a great anwser to that

Community College.


>but what do they take on to better their station now?

Community college.


The fact that credits weren't transferable always seemed so shady to me. That just made it seemed that whatever credits you did earn weren't legitimate or worth anything if they couldn't be equated to credits at another college.


It's on this page, for the curious:

http://programinfo.itt-tech.edu/consumerinfo/


Why didn't ITT seek accreditation so that credits were transferable? It seems like it would instantly increase the value of what they are selling.


> Why didn't ITT seek accreditation so that credits were transferable?

Accreditation and transferability are different issues; ITT was accredited (were it not, it could not have participated in federal aid programs.)

> It seems like it would instantly increase the value of what they are selling.

Like Corinthian, what they were selling was largely fantasies, specifically targeted to demographics who were unlikely to recognize that they were fantasies. Were ITT intending to sell a legitimate education, sure, transferability would increase the value, but they were never going to sell legitimate education at the mass-market volume and premium prices they were trying to sell at.


The additional cost of meeting the accreditation requirements, and the accreditation fees and dues, would exceed the portion that could be monetized out of the additional value imbued to the product by virtue of earning the accreditation.


That's a bold claim to make the day they shut down. :)


Naturally, I am assuming that a for-profit business made a rational cost-benefit analysis.

But it also could have been that they would rather have had countable cash in hand than nebulous goodwill some time in the future. Business managers don't always make rational decisions based on what is best for the business.


Credits rarely transfer into a major or minor program of study regardless of source institution. Waiving of requirements to opt into higher-level coursework is fine. That's rarely what students want.

ITT is just the worst example of crappy education. There are plenty of schools where a crappy education is still available. Federally backed (edit: guarenteed) money for student loans intuitively seems problematic.


I graduated with a BS degree in the UC system and many years later decided to get another in the CSU system and even then there were difficulty getting transfer credits for base classes to get the second degree.


> I really feel for all the students who are so close to graduating and not knowing if they'll have anything to show for it.. And their credits will most likely not transfer to another school because of the different accreditations.

I'm pretty sure the ones that graduated have no chance of their credits transferring either. Only difference is they saved whatever the last couple tuition payments would have been.


You can put an ITT Tech degree on a resume. It will be regarded as less than a degree elsewhere, but it's something. But just non-transferrable course credit gets you nowhere. These students may be put back years on their career path.


I agree. It seems like everything on the news is blown out of proportion and beaten to death in an attempt to fill the day with "interesting" stuff. No, this is just making people scared to go outside and actually enjoy life.

I've stopped watching the news and just read it whenever I hear of something going on that piques my interest on the Internet. It's pointless for me to watch 24-hour news coverage of a shooting or kidnapping that is just going to make me think less of the world I live in.


I also think interest has died down because users in suburban/rural areas (like myself) are getting tired of not having any Pokestops to refill on Pokeballs within walking distance. It was fun and interesting driving to the city/parks to pick up all the Pokestops and catch Pokemon we normally wouldn't at home, but a lot of people have grown tired of having to do that to continue playing.


Maybe you should look for someone to proofread the website, especially the front page. Too many typos and grammatical errors will drive users away.


That is little hard currently to hire some one for proofread. If any user here would like to voluntarily help, that will be great.

Thanks


I'm currently dealing with if I want to rent out an apartment by myself or if I want to find a roommate/friend to share it with. On one hand, YAY NO PEOPLE AND FULL CONTROL OF THE PLACE; on the other hand, I don't want to get depressed when I start missing seeing people when I get home. I feel like living on my own would help me so much socially/physically/emotionally than finding someone to room with.


Roommates should be seen as a business transaction. I would not rely on then for social interaction. Some of the horror stories suggest they could be very detrimental to your mental health. Also a quick way to find out you don't like your friend as much as you thought you did is to live with them 24/7.


That's true. I believe I make enough to manage a decent-to-nice apartment on my own, so I won't have to have a roommate to make rent. Right now, I'm just saving up and paying off student loans and my credit card and casually looking at apartments near the city and my work.


My main peeve is them removing the My Herd feature, which allowed you to set a city/campus as your "home" Herd. You were able to interact with your Herd even when you weren't in the immediate area. I still had mine set for my alma mater and loved staying connected with all the going-ons on campus, even when I couldn't always be there. I work and live in an area that rarely has any new Yaks pop up, so removing my ability to interact with my Herd from a distance has really killed this app for me. I can still see the feed for my old Herd, but no interaction is possible.

When this update first came out, I was thinking it was a bug that I couldn't upvote or post in my Herd, so I emailed support. I get this canned response about how that feature was removed, but how there were so many other "exciting" features to check out then and that I could still Peek at my Herd. I replied back stating that I was dissatisfied with the update that purported it was making social media feel "local" again, yet removing a feature that actually kept people connected. Of course, I get almost the exact same response back.


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