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The technology they are discovering is called "Language". It was designed to encode emotions by a sender and invoke emotions in the reader. The emotions a reader gets from LLM are still coming from the language

Emotional signals are more than just text though, there is a reason tone and body language is so important for understanding what someone says. Sarcasm and so on doesn't work well without it.

Gee, you think so?

I think the point was that not ALL sarcasm works well. I see what you did there, of course :)

Emotion is mainly encoded in tone and body language. It is somewhat difficult to transport emotion using words. I don't think you can guess my current emotional state while I am writing this, but if you'd see my face it would be easy for you.

Dammit, you cheated though! Why must you always do that? In your sentences it doesn't matter what your emotional state is, it makes no difference; bit like life really.

Hopefully, you can see that at least my chosen sentences have an emotional aspect?

An LLM could add emotional values to my previous sentences that a TTS can use for tonal variation, for example.


Makes me wonder: are there Unicode code points for tone of voice? If not could there be?


If you think in terms of quantum mechanics and density matrices across higher dimensions, then, yes there are interesting geometries that arise.

I’m exploring some “branes” that might cleanly filter in emotional space.


I can read your example in three different tonalities, of which one is the likeliest. Depending on our relationship, the interpretation could differ.

The point is, the OP suggested that emotions are just a feature of language. I argue that text is one of the worst transmission channels for emotion. But I don't argue that it's not possible at all to do so, if you suggest that. That would be just silly.


Fiction writers practice really hard on this, and I'd argue that they tend to be -in the main- successful. Ish. There can still be multiple readings of a book.

Ok, I argued myself in, out, and back into that one again. It depends on the writer and the book, but a lot of writers can invoke emotion in their writing.

Fun experiment: Take a piece of creative writing (a short story); [not one of the obviously ambiguous ones, d'oh ... or do! ] and decide how it makes you feel. Ask an LLM the same question. See how far you diverge. Some LLMs give answers pretty similar to humans! If you picked an ambiguous story, see what happens if you ask for multiple readings.



I've actually applied and talked to a recruiter once, but never even got to a real interview. Finance is really hard to break into if you don't have a million degrees from an Ivy League, and probably not easy even then.

I've heard about it being a bit scary to say anything though, so I don't know if it would be a good fit.


The pay seems a bit low based on that article for that level of “performance expectation”


Drive to the office and sit on a video call you can hardly hear because the coworkers next to you are on their own video calls


I once took two planes to visit a client office so I could do a video call with them at their other office on the other side of the city I just flew to and then flew back home.

I once did a six-month project where I'd go the office to sit on zoom with my team in 3 other cities. One of those cities was our offshore dev team that we hired because they cost less and could do the job remotely. How the hell did CEOs get away with telling us that offshore dev teams would be fine because in-person collaboration wasn't necessary while simultaneously saying we all had to be in the office?


> How the hell did CEOs get away with telling us that offshore dev teams would be fine because in-person collaboration wasn't necessary while simultaneously saying we all had to be in the office?

Because of workers who let them get away with it (apparently, including yourself). Workers who do not collectively act in their own best interests get taken advantage of, that is what CEOs exist to do.


> How the hell did CEOs get away with telling us that offshore dev teams would be fine because in-person collaboration wasn't necessary while simultaneously saying we all had to be in the office?

Hopefully those particular CEOs are now in line for being replaced with an AI.


Add a single pixel manually


That probably wouldn’t count as “substantial human authorship”.


You then own the copyright on that pixel.


Reminds me of "forever minus a day"



like how Roombas killed the housekeeping industry ?


Dangerous only to your career and only if you posted about it on social media


I tried to buy a vacuum from a Sears store once. The cashier couldn't price match against Sears' own website, which had a lower price. So while inside the store, I purchased the vacuum on my phone, and selected in store pickup, and showed it to the cashier. But they had a separate building for in store pickup I had to drive around to.


If the cameras are recoding public areas, isn’t it better the recorded footage stays public


I think so, but it is a loosely held opinion at this point. Fundamentally, I think it is a huge, asymmetric power grab by Flock and local police to install these systems. It only takes one officer looking up their local politician and finding them doing something that could even look like a bad deed (or to fake it in the era of AI videogen...) to enable blackmail and personal/professional gain.

If they're going to exist, it may be better for that to be spread among the public than to be left in the hands of the few.


They shouldn't be recording at all is the point.


Would you want your partner or child stalked, raped, and murdered?

You don't even need to drop an air tag now, you can use the license plate reader to track them everywhere they go. There is no hiding.


At first I thought you were defending flock. Seems clear the cameras make it harder to commit crimes and easier to go after the offenders, despite all the side effects most people are upset about here.


How does a camera make it harder to commit a crime? If I bash your skull in on camera, did the camera make that more difficult? Would your family be less aggrieved?


It makes it easy for a random person to track anyone, regardless of which states they go to.

It also makes it easy to say, track a person's movements to an abortion clinic if your state would like to prosecute that (this is happening).


This is pretty naive. What happens when you develop and extend such a system in a way that it can track who you interact with? What about social credit scores? You might go out to a social event with a very distinguished social credit score of 820 and get knocked down to 69 just because you were in proximity to Bob and Alice, who happen to be on some blacklists for their work in cryptography.

What you're staring at is the gateway tech that brings in a dystopian society. At first stuff like this is fairly benign, but slowly over time it ramps up into truly awful outcomes.


I think the goal is to do just that. China has it, the west wants it too


I mean public venues in the US use this stuff to kick out people that they don't like, or that work for firms that have been involved in lawsuits. That is no different than the start of a social credit score and it's happening already.


For JavaScript I’ve found Scrimba to be worlds better than anything on Udemy or Coursera


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