> Then again, I'm working on games for C64, so nostalgia does things to a body.

You should check out Turbo Rascal (...), but you probably already did.

https://lemonspawn.com/turbo-rascal-syntax-error-expected-bu... (outdated cert)

https://github.com/leuat/TRSE/

I did, but I prefer C. And, I prefer vim to an IDE.

I suppose it's just imagery from the heyday of Wirth's Oberon, ca 1987.

BTW Oberon was / is not just a language, but a whole very interesting interactive computing environment.

I think some of the devs are Russian and a quick scan of the video doesn't show anything other than a shared screen for the bulk of the time (using the mouse to grab the time pointer and move it quickly through the length of the presentation).

Pascal is quite common in Russia - many schools teach comp sci with it.

They use Yandex for e-mail, so probably a Russian group behind this.

> Extremely poor taste.

How so?

Soviet imagery in countries that have been conquered by or subject to Soviet imperialism is seen extremely poorly. USSR loved its ethnic cleansing and purges, with several declared as genocide. Try, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_the_Crimean_Tat... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Lentil_(Caucasus) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD Soviet imagery has also been widely used by Russian propaganda in its current war against Ukraine, so it’s not only a historical matter.

> Soviet imagery has also been widely used by Russian propaganda in its current war against Ukraine

That alone makes it very bad taste to use any of the Soviet imagery. I'm not sure why it's even a debatable topic at this point.

Sure. But there are also a significant number of people who are nostalgic for it and might be offended by this use for that reason, hence why I asked.

Given the existence of both groups I think just the claim that it’s offensive, without explaining why, is ambiguous and just reacting defensively doesn’t address that.

Given all we know about the USSR, I don't think anyone needs to explain why. This plus your other comment suggest you're replying in bad faith.

It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.

Indeed, that accusation of bad faith is such blatant projection ... essentially "It's bad faith to disagree with me, and there's no need for me to justify my claims."

This whole diversion is off topic and can be seen as a form of bad faith.

I’m not even disagreeing, I’m saying that there are different (and somewhat opposed) ways in which someone could find an image offensive, so it’s worthwhile to provide further context.

> Given the existence of both groups

This is a false equivalence between those who suffered from USSR and those who are ignorant of the suffering of others. I don't think we should care about feelings of a group who are for whatever reason nostalgic about a genocidal oppressive regime.

Would you treat an image of the US House of Representatives the same way? The United States has caused an enormous amount of suffering in the world and has in the past had an explicit policy of genocide and oppression against a number of groups (including my wife’s ancestors), as well as a number of other horrific policies. If you would not treat an image of the US House of Representatives the same way as you treat an image of the Supreme Soviet, it’s worthwhile to interrogate why.

Peoples’ feelings about the nations they are born into and told to love from birth are complex and multifaceted. The people I know who grew up in the USSR have both good and bad things to say about it, just like the people I know who grew up in the USA (like me) at the same time (the 1970s-1990s) have both good and bad things to say about it. And that isn’t just about our own experiences growing up in these respective nations, but about learning our birth nations’ true histories, and how closely (or not) the ideals espoused by their founders and politicians and important figures in their histories were reflected in their actions.

Thus I really, truly do believe it’s ambiguous for someone to say, without any further context, that they find an image of a legislature with some screen shots of an IDE placed into it offensive. Is it offensive because it’s referencing a body they consider evil or is it offensive because it’s trivializing a body they consider good? Without context it’s impossible to know, and acting like everyone shares the same context about this is just refusal to engage with the world as it is rather than the world as you’d like it to be.

How about you just explain what you mean?

You’re the one who made the statement. It’s on you to support it.

Say that thousands of civilians were brutally massacred by the "People's Liberation Army" on behalf of the Chinese communist party, the single political party allowed in China, and also the single entity controlling everything of importance in the country, including financing the AI efforts.

Oh, I see what you did there.

I actually laughed out loud

In my experience, the US finds it very hard to say no to money. It's basically their Achilles' heel. Europe is a very large market. Also TACO.

However: We do also need to build our own options for resilience against chaotic US leadership.

This is indeed the risk.

Connect the dots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/jun/15/johnhooper (2000)

Chancellor Gerhard Schröder was last night within sight of an historic deal to shut down Germany's nuclear energy industry - the fourth largest in the world.

https://atomicinsights.com/gazprom-profiting-mightily-from-g... (2011)

Gazprom profiting mightily from German nuclear exit

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/23/world/europe/schroder-ger... (2022)

The Former Chancellor Who Became Putin’s Man in Germany

Gerhard Schröder, who is paid almost $1 million a year by Russian-controlled energy companies, has become a pariah.

One could also see the gradual increase in dependence on Russian gas as part in long term preparations for War in Ukraine.

Would the full-scale invasion even have happened without this groundwork? I doubt it.

They are obsessed with killing Spotify. That’s why they are doing such customer hostile things, despite being Apple.

Similar situation in the past: Microsoft vs Netscape.

Yes. I've got no interest in leaving Spotify, I have the same loyalty to them as I do to Apple. Though of course anyone could screw it up. Then they lose me forever, like AT&T.

Doing it the old way, sitting side by side within talking distance, IMHO.

Fully remote, so not a thing, but also only one piece of the puzzle. The Ai can do the grunt work and more, what practices do we teach them? I think there is an amount of self reflection to figure out what it is we even do ourselves.

Yeah, explicitly disabled. Corporate control freak behavior - that tracks.

This concept of a story has been on HN so many times. It always starts with this technically correct but actually misleading headline fragment. Misleading clickbait works, even here. Every time.