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How do you propose to convince people to get those externalities accounted without emotions? How do you convince people of the value of externalities that are far away in place or time (but not less real)?


The idea that you would be worried about how many electrons you use and it's relationship to climate change is on its face kind of ridiculous.

It's like worrying about how many times you personally ordered Chinese food affects the price of Diesel fuel in India. It's an absurd leap of logic, and the parent is right to call out these arguments which are almost always emotional.


the Nato-L project [1] trying to get this done between Europe and North-America. 2 of the founders are the guys behind the (very interesting) redefining-energy podcast [2].

[1]: https://nato-l.com/ [2]: https://redefining-energy.com/


Do you have any calculations to back this up? With which carbon price is this calculated?


There are a lot of valid criticisms to be made about the voluntary carbon market but at least it's something that is being done right now.

At Sylvera, a carbon offset rating agency, we create very thorough analyses of all projects issuing offsets. Based on scores for carbon score, additionality and permanence we create ratings that buyers can trust to avoid being scammed. This transparency is fundamental to the functioning of this market.


So you presume that there is a fixed amount of development work to be done at companies and by using open source software for free they are hiring less people?


I moved from Belgium to Berlin 2 months ago. To me Berlin looks really spread out compared to Belgian cities and a lot of other big cities. To test my feeling I just checked this map [1]. It's clear that the population density in Berlin is lower than in other European cities like London or Paris. Even smaller cities like Brussels, Copenhagen and Stockholm are denser.

So I think there is still is a lot of potential to relax zoning laws and let more homes be built. This is the best way to lower rents imo.

[1] https://pudding.cool/2018/10/city_3d/


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