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Unrelated comment nudging people to use nostr instead of the centralized established solution.

If any major nostr relay goes down, no one notices. That has happened many times, the network is very resilient to that.

The comparison here is to something like TCP/IP. TCP/IP never goes down. TCP/IP is a protocol, the servers may go down and cause disruption, but the protocol doesn't really have the ability to "go down". Nostr is also a protocol. The communication on top of Nostr is pretty resilient compared to other solutions though, so that's the main highlight here.

If tens of servers go down, then some people may start noticing a bit of inconvenience. If hundreds of servers go down, then some people may need to coordinate out of bound on what relays to use, but it still generally speaking works ok.


Use both. These do different things.

How do you get it running on Android?

It's the same app, Google AI edge gallery.

And our AIs can give us insight into what is the highest salary that the given company can offer.

"Our AIs"? The AI models belong to giant corporations (Google, Microsoft) or are receiving millions of dollars serving giant corporations. How are they yours?

A better solution is passing laws on wage transparency. For most jobs, the company has a range in mind. Make them post that range in the job offer itself. Short of robust labor unions bargaining for better wages, transparency in the job posting is the next best thing.


Am I really the first one to mention pico8 in this thread? Anyway, pico8 is another option that has a bit different spin, but you also implement the games in Lua :)

TIC-80 is a nice free as in freedom alternative to PICO-8, and it allows more inputs, which makes for better Tetris games (gotta have that hold piece).

TIC-80 is wonderful to play in. Besides being free/open, another advantage over PICO-8 is TIC-80 has native support for Fennel. i.e. you can code within the system editor in Lua OR Fennel (or half a dozen other languages!) You don't have to edit and transpile to Lua on the desktop as you would with PICO-8. This has some value in debugging with error messages and line numbers.

It's also just plain cool to rock the TIC-80 editor fullscreen with narrow font, coding natively in Lisp and publishing the result to a webpage you can share.

I wish the iOS (app) deployment story was a little smoother for TIC-80.


Wait really? I looked into tic80 a while ago and I know it had native support for moon script, but I had to play with it to get fennel to work

Is this about Master of Blocks?

There are a lot of free-as-in-freedom alternatives to (and clones of) PICO-8, but TIC-80 is indeed the most popular one, by far. And popularity is important for any software ecosystem. I really like that it supports other languages, even if that kinda inhibits its ability to be embedded into small hardware.

Apparently the nightly release supports DCPM samples now. Dunno why.


TIC-80 is great indeed, I had even ore fu with it than with PICO-8 and that's a high bar.

But there is one gripe -- when packaging apps into executable, TIC-80 pulls templates from the Internet.

On one hand, it's not that big deal, we are online basically all time nowadays. But on the other hand, I would expect that kind of software to be self-contained.

I found a quite simple (but definitely not frictionless) workaround though - you can build the templates yourself, edit source code to work with localhost instead of TIC website, and host the templates on local webserver.

As I said, it's not a frictionless solution, but I don't know C well enough to make more substantial changes to this behaviour.


I'm planning on doing a TIC-80 implementation as one of the first major pieces of software on an OS I plan on working on (I've already designed the OS on paper, I just need to actually do the hard part (actually implementing it))

It's just that pico8 has much larger ecosystem. There's a new great game almost every day. It is sort of annoying that it's not FOSS, but on the other hand the team/author has sustainable business.

antirez' LOAD81 never gets enough love in these discussions even though it is simply awesome:

https://github.com/antirez/load81

Anyone looking at Lua/SDL/game engines would learn a lot from antirez' fun little afternoon project ..


People talk about the stuff they use, and there are _a lot_ of fantasy consoles.

https://github.com/paladin-t/fantasy


With all due respect to antirez, this is too obsolete and most of it is too low-level to be of much interest to anyone using SDL for game development.

People would be better off looking at the examples page and repo for SDL itself.

https://examples.libsdl.org/SDL3/

https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/tree/main/examples


As long as we're doing mentions, here's a reminder. If you bought the racial equality bundle in itch.io you already own pico8. You can download the latest version right now on itch.io.

(It is neither open source nor free)


It took me a while to orient myself on that picture, until I realized where Spain is... :)

It's interesting that the package managers become choke points that can be used for government overreach. Luckily Linux is open source so I expect there will be options that just don't do this from principle.

Otherwise my Intel NUC server with Debian is 2 years old, so I expect the honest age would be 2 years? I may have parts for some old PCs to put together that could get adult software I guess...


For me, the big issue is going to be mobile devices (phones, and tablets to a lesser degree)

I've already had it up to my back teeth with Google arbitrarily updating things such that the on/off button was hijacked, preventing me from switch the device off, instead triggering an interaction with freaking Gemini (what sort of IDIOT thought doing that to a device was a good idea)

I'm seriously trying to find a way to no longer run Apple or Google OS based phones - which puts me in the "Linux" or "Graphene" market


I think more folks are now interested in the "Linux" or "Graphene" market and since the phone hardware development is not as rapid as it used to be (from 1yr cycle to more than 2yr cycle), I think this gives more stability and wiggle room for folks to do Linux and/or Graphene. I'm patiently waiting for what happens with the Motorola + Graphene integration/plan. If they provide good hardware + preinstalled Graphene, I'd buy it.

With AI you can do that, or smaller companies can do that. It levels the field.

That seems like a pretty extraordinary claim.

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