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They spend a ton on data centers and talent. Last quarter there was no user growth and profit per share was 7 cents. Shareholders definitely don't agree with you about this.


What's not to agree with exactly? The fact is they grew sales 61% - with zero user growth. For a company that large to be growing that fast, they're very clearly having no problems with growing the business.

They need 47% growth in the next four quarters, and then 36% growth in the four quarters after that, to hit $3.5 billion in sales. Given first quarter growth was 74%, then second quarter growth was 61%, it's not a far stretch to hit 47% over the next four.

Shareholders have sent the stock down on the basis of user growth, not sales growth.

Twitter has three problems.

1) They're not Facebook, it is not about users, and they should stop trying to be something other than a broadcast platform. It's about consumption.

2) They were extremely overvalued right out of the gate. There was a lot of delusional thinking around their potential. There's one Facebook, there isn't going to be another any time soon. Twitter will never be another Google type company.

3) They're carrying vastly more cost in their business than they need to. They have 36% the head count of Facebook, with 12% of the sales. They've stacked the business on the premise they were going to be a massive company like Facebook - they're not, it's time to adjust costs accordingly.


You consider their current IPO level price point overvalued then? At what price point would you buy then?


Plus, to compare it to Yahoo! is obviously a bit of a self-defeating analogy (as Yahoo! is struggling in most of its operations).


Yahoo is one of the largest consumer tech companies on earth with $4.6 billion in sales. Yahoo's problem isn't their size today, it's their lack of sales growth for ten years. Twitter doesn't have a lack of sales growth.


They take a pretty good fee to withdraw money. I'm not sure that would be a decent part of their revenue, though.


Do you have a source for this?

For US listed stocks there is no fee throughout the entire transaction (deposit, buy, sell, withdraw): https://brokerage-static.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/robinhood/l...

Robinhood has stated for a while that they have a margin feature they plan to charge for: https://robinhoodapp.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202853769...


Withdraw to your bank account?


Sorry about that. I must have looked at ACAT - Outgoing for some reason, believing it was ACH.


I give it 4/5 stars due to the over-dramatization. 80% of the room leaving because they never ran a successful command seems far fetched.


I'm pretty sure I saw this on one of the CSI tv shows.


Critical type here. There's something missing from his review. The company seems to fire people on the spot for little mistakes, from what I've read above. There has to be a lot more dirt, he just hasn't encountered yet.


Generous severances (of the sort that might accompany the dirt) usually come with a generous non-disclosure agreement, so that makes sense.


Paywalls are nsfl. Thanks for the link.


The paywall link made it to the top of the front page, but somehow I'm down-voted...go figure.


Is this not typical of early versions of most software or code? I'm waiting anxiously for 2.0. It does need a re-write.


Last thing we need is another frontend framework, least of all one with bizarre design decisions made by a team with a bad track record.


Well, they made Angular. That's a pretty good record in my opinion. Not that I agree with all their design decisions, but the framework works, is maintained, and helps a lot of people.

I've worked with Angular for a few years now, and I find it really great. I can only imagine what the Angular 2 refactoring will bring. A framework focused around ES6? Count me in.

Furthermore, we actually need more frontend frameworks, because that's how things get better. Evolution via competition.


Ember's been focused around ES6 for a while now; the more frameworks that make the shift instead of stagnating or needlessly diverging, the merrier.


Last thing we need is another frontend framework

Why? I'm not sure have an existing one that satisfies every requirement anyone will ever have.


It's not compelling, it just fills the gap, as mentioned. It gives them more info to adjust their search algorithms and weed out bad apples imo. Now they know who has registered even private domains. Make an inadvertent "bad move" on one domain/site, and they will be killing traffic to everything you own.


Surely.


I think the key is finding a unique niche with only a few competitors in the store. If not, you will get lost among a few hundred similar apps., even if yours is better. Marketing $$ might help overcome, though. I haven't tested trying to push up a bottom dweller.


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