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You are describing opt-in policies — you’re out by default and you have to opt-in to be tracked.

I think most checkouts do that, to prevent duplicate payments. Dunno about epic, but I often encounter that mitigated by a dedicated ‘go back to store’ button post-checkout


MS has a history of fucking up LibreOffice installs.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/General/General_Inst...


I am sure this is by accident, MS would never try to discourage users from installing free alternatives to their offerings.


An alternative reply, with analogy, if you like them:

You own a restaurant, where you sell poisoned (intentionally and knowingly) food. A group of people band up for class action lawsuit for poisoning them, and have the lawyers post a sign at your restaurant, that everyone poisoned there should reach out and get some compensation.

Should you be allowed to take the sign down?


They shouldn't be allowed to put the sign up unless it's court ordered.

I know this answer doesn't pass the vibes test, but it's how the law actually works. If you post a sign on someone's property without permission, you'll get in trouble for trespassing, vandalism, or both.

So get a judge to issue an order. In a serious situation, they very well might.


How is that even a question? Of course I should be able to take the sign down.


It’s not a rival store, or speech against them.

It’s a lawsuit, with the users of the platform as the damaged party, against the platform. Removing the possibility to reach the users should result in a default judgement with maximum damages immediately.


Could you point to where you found the details of the exploit? It’s not in the linked page. Really interested. Especially the part about modifying it and the other users propagating it?


The fact of this obvious LLM slop being at the top of this discussion is incredibly insidious. The "facts" it mentions are made up. Has this vapid style finally become so normalized that nobody is seeing it anymore?


I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out, but I checked that account's comment history and it uses em dashes. Also, "the database history itself is the active distribution vector" Is just semantic nonsense.

I still have a basic assumption that if something I'm reading doesn't make much sense to me, I probably just don't understand it. Over the last few years I've had to get used to the new assumption that it's because I'm reading LLM output.


I've also always used em-dashes, it's not a very reliable indicator. That style is a dead giveaway, though. Some of its comments seem to be written by a human, but several definitely aren't.

I've been spending less and less time here, the moderation is obviously overwhelmed and is losing the battle.

https://aphyr.com/posts/389-the-future-of-forums-is-lies-i-g...


The dead internet arrived slowly, then all at once


It's not semantic nonsense, it's the truth per the incident reports ... go read the links that have been added up top.


That user, epicprogrammer's comment history suggests alignment with the Musk/Thiel/Anduril/DoW/anti-Anthropic crowd who are incessantly trying to damage Wikipedia's reputation to push a "Grokipedia" where they can define the narrative.

I wouldn't be surprised if that group were the origin of this attack too.


Perhaps we're at last watching the internet die.


Yes, but we did that over the last 15 years. We just never realized that's what we were seeing.

It only clicked for me a few weeks ago, in one thread or another here when I realized that no one could ever do what Google did once: Cloudflare and other antibot technologies have closed off traditional search-as-the-result-of-web-crawling permanently. It's not that no one will do it because they think there's no money in it, or that no one will do it because the upfront costs are gigantic... literally it can no longer be done.

The internet died.


There are still a few options. I recently had the idea of doing search engine queries on 9 search engines.

Mojeek is a good independent search browser, it isn't the best but at that Hackernews comment/analysis I was doing I found it to be the only one which worked for that case.

Brave exists too.

I know the situation is very critical/dire tho but there is still some chance. All be it quite small.

Mojeek IIRC, is operated by one single guy for 15 years.


The facts are not made up--check the incident reports.

Most claims of LLM authorship are erroneous.


Well, google doesn’t sell pixels in eu that can use graphene, and samsung installed the israeli spyware on all their devices. So apple is kinda the best solution.

Unless you count xiaomi and huawei as the proper android devices?


In the German site I get free shipping over 60 Eur, but only by stuff shipped by amazon. And other vendors somehow manage to always screw up shipping, so now I have had all orders for used books that had no/invalid tracking number, not arrive and I have/had to negotiate a refund for all of these refunds with the vendors themselves instead of amazon. So all-in-all, amazon is actually good, makes stuff available that’s impossible to find locally (books in English), and does shipping well.


No, it’s more like you have 10k km to drive in this car.

And then, after you actually drive it for 10k km on “unauthorized” highways, they ban you.

That’s why analogies are for fucking idiots. There is a true example — you bought access to use your account for n tokens, and google got pissy that you didn’t use the tokens in their spyware ecosystem.

For you analogy loving fucks, it’s like the arcades selling their proprietary 50 cent worth token coins, that only works on their machines, when they could just accept 50 cent coins.


Well, your premise is false because you do not actually buy access for a stated number of tokens. I used the analogy because you have trouble getting facts straight so indeed you fall into the category that you describe there.


If I pay for a subscription that guarantees 1000 tokens, I am paying for guaranteed 1000 tokens.


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