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This was true before missile defense systems started becoming a factor. If 1500 is an effective deterrent, you need 1500 multipled by the inverse of whatever percentage of those bombs your adversary can plausibly stop.


I can just see, shaking with horror, the image of missiles and anti missiles smashing into each other, raining immense radiation into the oceans poisining everything. And thats the best case, where the earheads are intercepted successfully.


Assumimg each warhead has 5kg of plutonium and each side launches 3500, that's 35 tones of plutonium.

The estimation is that the sea has 4E9 tones of disolved uranium.

I'd better not try, but there is already a lot of natural radioactive materialas in the sea.

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Acording to a ramdon Reddit comment https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/96oprs/comment/... a core of a warhead in your hand gives 0.5S.

That is like 5E6 bananas, that is like 3E3 tones of bananas.

Assuming 3500 warheads on each side, thats line 2E7 tones of bananas.

The anual production of bananas is 8E7 tones of bananas per year. So dropping all the warheads in the see is like dropping 3 months of the banana production.

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Anyway, most of the radioactivity of bananas is due to potasium, that is very soluble so it goes to the pee that goes to the river that goes to the sea. So it's not necesary to sink the ships, just eat the bananas and wait.

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Anyway, potasium is very soluble and does not accumulate too much in animals and plants. I'm bot sure about plutonium.


You can also think of the warheads detonating before it reaches the target but before it’s intercepted. A high atmosphere EMP is much better for the attacker than a couple kilograms of enriched fissiles being distributed over your target.


In the UK, "America" always refers to the USA. North America and South America together are called "The Americas", never "America". It may be different in continental languages.


They both had a direct competitor that had been stalking them for years before implosion, and neither were as well established or well funded as Meta/Facebook.


I don't think there were any reports online until December 31st.


I journal daily and like to capture the news among my daily record. The first time I found COVID/Coronavirus mentioned by BBC News was January 3rd 2020 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50984025.

It is of course possible I missed a story but before January 3rd there was little to no mainstream news coverage. It is quite frustrating to find accurate articles now as many sites are falsely returned in date range Google searches. All "mystery flu-like pneumonia" stories I've found reported in December 2019 are medical news so it is extremely unlikely someone would come across such an article as part of normal news reading.


On January the 4th their were posters (printed A4) up on Public Transport in Hong Kong. I remember thinking it was very strange - I had heard a story on the BBC world service the night before. The posters warned of a "Novel Pneumonia from Southern China". How the world changed...


How it changed indeed! Reading my journal for the first four months of 2020 is fascinating. I must have read over those first few months ten times since. So much has happened with advice and guidance changing as we learn more about the virus and the disease. So much mis- and disinformation. Crazy behaviours all over. I am so glad I keep a journal as it will be quite something to read back in a decade or two.

Especially for my 8 year old son. He is old enough to understand things are not normal but young enough to not fully understand the gravity of the situation or have memories of much outside of his little bubble.


The BBC were definitely covering it in late December 2019 - I distinctly remember the TV coverage on New Years Eve.


If you have any links to articles or news reports I would be very grateful.


Here is a western news report from mid November: https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/16/china-bubonic-plague-ou...


If you can get access to an archive of South China Morning Post that hasn't been scrubbed, the term you want to search for is "mystery pneumonia" or "sars like".


Thanks, I have several Chinese/Asia news sources from December however I was asking for a BBC reference as M2Ys4U mentioned it was reported by the BBC on New Years Eve and the earliest I have is January 3rd.


btw this is where the "19" comes from.


According to Giuseppe Remuzzi there were strange pneumonia cases in northern Italy in November 2019, but as far as I can see they were not reported until March 2020.

Apart from that I remember the first reports from China in December 2019.


I remember hearing about it prior to that as well. I remember because I was building a shed and had someone helping me who was talking about it and it was prior to the new year, early December at the latest. He heard about it on a Doomsday type podcast.


I remember reading about it end of December 2019. I believe it was a Reddit thread with some worrying reports on the ground.


I found one (english) Timeline that Starts before 31.

https://bfpg.co.uk/2020/04/covid-19-timeline/

I too remember talking about it on Christmas.


Funnily enough, there were some memes about it before December 17th 2019. Comparing some disease from 1920 with 2020.


Probably not tbh - the cost/benefit of getting such small amounts of money versus enormous reputational damage is not remotely worth it.


My question is can they bid on it behind the scenes like a keyword. Siri suggestions must have some type of revenue.


It would be a poorly considered algorithm rather than some bidding situation. No sane person would build this intentionally. The big companies have too much to lose especially.


Basically, this is Google's entire business: getting paid to send us where someone else wants us to go. Google are "big". Why wouldn't Apple want in on this action?


Sponsored search results are marked as such in the Google results, it's nothing like the automagic redirect Safari is showing here.


Apple uses this to promote first party services like Apple Music, Apple News, and App Store. All of these generate revenue for Apple.

If they land on Google, then Google would be promoting YouTube Music, Google News, etc, which is lost revenue for Apple.


It says MB on the y-axis label.


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