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Independent? You say independent, I say parasitic. Just like any ruling class of the Middle East, especially the UAE. They’re not independent, they’re very much dependent on the semi slave labor they manage to exploit. Anything that makes life worth living is the result of collective labor. People coming together and building or learning upon previous knowledge. Hell, even your understanding of yourself comes from the social relationships you form during your formative years. This desire to be what amounts to an outcast is a defect, an abnormality imposed by the mode of production that organizes the world right now.

>" This desire to be what amounts to an outcast"

I think you have to get off your meds first


Wow, "perceived war crimes", what an interesting way of saying war crimes.

Real and perceived. The lay public aren't generally students of international law.

Oh I wish I had the money to test your theory. And a garage too.

You can if you live in the US! It isn’t particularly expensive either, high explosives are industrial chemistry. A few dollars per kilo. Maybe a little bit more if you want something fancy.

Thanks to movies, people both seriously overestimate and underestimate the capabilities of highly engineered explosive devices, albeit in different dimensions. Generally speaking, sophisticated military targets are not susceptible to generic explosives. A drone with a hundred kilos of explosive will essentially bounce off a lot of targets. An enormous amount of engineering goes into designing an explosive device optimized to defeat that specific target. They use supercomputers to get this stuff right. Exotic engineered explosive devices are unreasonably capable.

TBH, once you realize the insane amount of engineering that goes into it, it kind of takes the fun out of it. A lot of high-leverage research goes into aspects an amateur would never think about.

This is in some ways a blessing. Amateurs with bad intentions almost always fail at the execution because it isn’t something you can learn by reading the Internet.


Amateurs who try to build their own explosives usually either fail to explode or explode killing the builder.

An older friend of mine at Boeing told me how when he was a teen, he had a teen friend who built a pipe bomb. They drove off to a field to set it off. It didn't explode, so his friend went to investigate. Then it went off, and my friend had the pleasure of driving his gutted friend to the hospital to die.


There's a selection process at work where smart people who know what they're doing don't try to assemble bombs in their garage for fun. If there's a legitimate reason like your country is fighting an existential war the kinds of people who can do things start doing things.

But it's just rare having a person smart enough to be able to do it be stupid enough to try. (and the people who do are nutjob terrorists like Timothy McVeigh)


FWIW, McVeigh got a lot of the technical details right, including many non-obvious ones. That was a sophisticated attempt by someone that actually knew what they were doing. It goes a long way toward explaining why that particular bombing was so effective.

That said, plenty of extremely smart people assemble bombs in their garage for fun. It is almost a rite of passage, at least in the US. The fact that historically you could just buy the common stuff incentivized smart people to attempt more technically difficult things for bragging rights. Most people have no concept for how available legal high explosives are in the US, even after 9/11 made it a bit more difficult.



Wow, so it's almost like the workers are a key piece in producing any value at all.


Does that include ads in US social media?


Actually social media is relatively easy to replace and as such not as big threat to European economy as other types of service. The biggest threat from social media is manipulation and collection of data that can be used to manipulate.


Your mistake is to confuse universal suffrage and democracy. Neither of which really exists in the US, btw.


It's amazing. The American president is quite literally creating a parallel military force to jail and kill people on the streets, they're arresting opposing journalists, politicians, pressuring tv channels and news organizations to fire people, invading countries without congressional approval, threatening allies with annexation for no fucking reason, dismantling any social programs left, and all of that led by a proven pedophile billionaire that was the customer and friend of a huge human trafficker, as were most of his billionaire friends who he favors with absolutely no shame.

And this is just the latest news coming from over there. I won't mention the fact that there are people alive today who couldn't drink from the same fountain as other people because their skin is dark. It was never fucking great.

So if you are American and still talk all this shit about China being a dictatorship and authoritarian this and “purge” that, I wish you would honestly shut the fuck up. Really. You are in no position to have an informed opinion on this because all of your information is force fed down your throat by half a dozen mega companies that are in bed with your regime.

So yeah, I'm sure China has a lot of issues, but if you didn't live there for some time or even speak the language for that matter, just shut the fuck the up.


No. I didn’t vote for that, and I’m not going to meekly give up on talking shit about the US and other countries. This idea that you have to be perfect to comment on anything imperfect needs to die.


The US is not an autocracy, is a mix between a plutocracy and a gerontocracy.


I wanted to argue China is gerontocracy as well, but it seems I remember wrong

Jiang Zemin in office in office 1993-2003 - 67-77yo

Hu Jintao 2003-2013 - 61-71yo

Xi Jinping 2013-2026 - 60-72yo

about time to replace XJP

US really went downhill into gerontocracy after Obama

if it would be up to me I'd set limits to terms of candidacy to somewhere between 35-65 at the day of elections


> if you are American and still talk all this shit about China being a dictatorship and authoritarian this and “purge” that, I wish you would honestly shut the fuck up. Really. You are in no position to have an informed opinion on this because all of your information is force fed

Bit defensive there, eh?

China is an autocracy and Xi is acting in the predictably self-destructive ways a dictator does. The U.S. is heading down that same path, with Trump practically mimicking Xi. N = 2 doesn’t weaken an argument. And folks who lived through the Nazis saying they see similar veins today doesn’t undermine their credibility.

(The hilarity of it is if you take your comment and replace China and America with partisan or pro-American coding, you could pop it out of Hegseth’s office and it would be right at home. Your comment almost seals the point that Xi is all the problems of MAGA, except polling China instead.)


Yes, I'm aware how ignorant I may sound, but it's so goddamn frustrating to read this kind of bullshit everytime I come to an American platform.

Ok, China is an autocracy, right? Could you explain to me how China conduct elections? Can you explain to me how they approve laws? Do they have a constitution? A justice system? Try answering these questions without much looking up and even if you do, please note the sources. No need to answer me really. Just ask yourself whether you know this or not and how qualified are you to actually label a HUGE state like China with one single heavily charged word.


Not that I trust Facebook or anything but wouldn’t a motivated investigator be able to find this key exfiltration “function” or code by now? Unless there is some remote code execution flow going on.


WhatsApp performs dynamic code loading from memory, GrapheneOS detects it when you open the app, and blocking this causes the app to crash during startup. So we know that static analysis of the APK is not giving us the whole picture of what actually executes.

This DCL could be fetching some forward_to_NSA() function from a server and registering it to be called on every outgoing message. It would be trivial to hide in tcpdumps, best approach would be tracing with Frida and looking at syscalls to attempt to isolate what is actually being loaded, but it is also trivial for apps to detect they are being debugged and conditionally avoid loading the incriminating code in this instance. This code would only run in environments where the interested parties are sure there is no chance of detection, which is enough of the endpoints that even if you personally can set off the anti-tracing conditions without falling foul of whatever attestation Meta likely have going on, everyone you text will be participating unknowingly in the dragnet anyway.


"Many forms of dynamic code loading, especially those that use remote sources, violate Google Play policies and may lead to a suspension of your app from Google Play."

https://developer.android.com/privacy-and-security/risks/dyn...

I wonder if that would deter Meta.


Some apps have always been more equal than others.


I don’t know these OS’s well enough. Can you MitM the dynamic code loads by adding a CA to the OS’s trusted list? I’ve done this in Python apps because there’s only 2 or 3 places that it might check to verify a TLS cert.


>Not that I trust Facebook or anything but wouldn’t a motivated investigator be able to find this key exfiltration “function” or code by now?

Yeah I'd imagine it would have been found by know. Then again, who knows when they'd add it, and if some future update removes it. Google isn't scanning every line for every version. I prefer to eliminate this kind of 5D-guesswork categorically, and just use FOSS messaging apps.


Why set aside expense? You do it anyway by whatever means necessary, like the DRPK. And if you’re a “western democracy” (also known as capitalist dictatorship) and you’re part of the ruling class, you still have the incentive to protect your assets, things you exploit in your country, land, natural resources, etc, that the US won’t be sharing or that they want to decrease supply when they take over through puppets or multinationals, and you can always force the public to pay for such a project, like all the times western peoples had to bail out or spend their taxes to benefit private corporations, but now it would look like it’s to protect sovereignty, which is a bonus of course, it would be to protect the local ruling class’s interests, but anyway. It’s clear the Americans will stop at nothing to acquire whatever it is they want, including indirectly violent means like ordering their financial institutions and tech giants to destroy whoever is on the way. The monster was always there since the Cold War and just now it dropped any pretenses.


Yeah, all those countries China has invaded really shows how apt they are to do that.


Tibet. Their ongoing border disputes with India. Island disputes along side their bullying of nearly every maritime neighbor in the region. Stationing destroyers outside of Australian cities as a show of force.

Plus, their current antagonistic relationship with Japan, where they make direct public threats to Japanese leaders who respond by seeking nuclear weapons.

They are currently probing for weakness in their neighbors because of territorial ambitions. Just because they don't invade countries on the other side of the world like the USA does, doesn't make them pacifists. They just have different goals.


yeah they really shouldn't be blockading their neighbors while claiming every country around them is their sphere of influence and openly interfering in their allies domestic politics while leveraging their size to force other countries to accept asymmetric economic deals...


How is this different from what the US is doing? See Monroe Doctrine for example and recent events concerning Venezuela?


thats the joke


Please spare us. China invaded Vietnam to protect Pol Pot while he was mass killing millions of innocent civilians. They have territorial disputes with over 10 countries, which they've been unable to decisively act on because those neighbors either have nukes (India) or are protected by a more powerful country (US). Not because their government is some benevolent entity. They're basically an authoritarian dictatorship that's kind of cornered at the moment (like Saddam after the Gulf War) but would kill a bunch of people and expand if the US wasn't around.


China has resolved a lot of its border disputes already. The border disputes with Kazakhstan, Krgyzstan, Laos, Mongolia, Nepal, North Korea, Russia, Vietnam, Tajikstan have all been resolved


They do it in the sea already. Just look at that nine dash line...


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