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Not long ago they are selling $1.5 for 100MB in China.


China Mobile Pakistan != China Mobile from PRC


I heard the service is cheap but quality is bad?


They forced all provider to match the price. That is the real benefit for someone who didn't wanted to change.


Modern psychology seems more and more plausible


The same can be said to Boston housing market.


Being tame means won't have the desire to revolt against tyranny.

You might can't imagine that, coz you probably didn't live under one.

Currently in China, there are tons of people (personally I'd say most) prefer to live inside the "protection against malicious misinformation" of the great firewall. They have "everything they want" there, they listen to authoritative info and fend off doubts spontaneously.


Please stop taking HN threads into nationalistic flamewar about China. That's not what this site is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


This is just so false and uninformed, couple of dacades earlier in China people with glasses on were seen as a rarity, meant he's not a peasant.

The current myopia near-crisis in China is clearly a sociological one, the gaokao is every Chinese teen’s only and foremost task,and they live their lives in drab & carmped concrete forests,don’t have idyllic backyards and weekend outings.

Teens are required to sit in cramped classrooms (we don't change room every course) more than 10 hours a day 6 days or more a week,the already meager physical and art classes (1 class a week each at best) were routinely canceled, to do the countless exam preparation and simulation, to get them to become the ultimate exam-taking machines, the higher score the students get in the gaokao, the more famous their school, teachers, principal will be,and yeah more money.

Beware Americans, this is what happens in China where there are no affirmative action or anything, pure meritocratic admissions.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Maotanchang+Middle+School

This is also why I alwayes laugh it off at Chinese's high GRE or IELTS scores,or wharever high scores and statistics, as a fellow Chinese I just know all too well how they got it and it certainly doesn't represent their real level.


A couple of decades ago, not being a peasant was a rarity outside of developed countries. According to Wikipedia, China's rural population was 97% in 1950. Now it's 50% or so.

I mean no offense, I was born in a Warsaw Pact country.


Non taken, I was referring to "Don't blame it on yourself. It's mostly genes." By this logic, "Don't blame it on yourself. being a peasant or not is mostly genes."

The thing is, myopia is simply caused by eye fatigue, few may be somehow congenital or hereditary, and it might be slightly comminicable through behavior patterns; "Some people can spend 15 hours a day in front of a computer, and still see like hawks" , some people stare at screens nonstop, some look away constantly.


My first visit to China was in 1999, and glasses were already common back then, especially in the big cities I went to. The way they did eye sight exams at the eye glass shop was horrendous, however (my friend got a pair while we were there). It really is kids studying too much, I agree, but it could have also been TV back then and other things.


That's kind of a survivorship bias, and again uninformed.

People in China aren't allowed to move to cities freely especially back then, there are hukous to bind you to your birthplace, back then there were even police in Shenzhen dedicated to rounding up migrant workers (so called "blindly-moving migrants") and sending them back.

What I want to say is that you likely went to some major cities and observed people there, without realizing that those people are entitled to live there, meaning good chunk of them are well-educated and that education was a privilege you need to fight for, that means dedicated learning.

If myopia in China is genetic, then there is a big contradiction: in a generation of teens, those early drop-outs who went to factories and those who were putter around in schools rarely were myopic, yet those who are good academically and skinny had a high rate of myopia.


Yes, people who study hard and perhaps watch too much TV will have more eye problems, but they also have to use their eyes more and will be diagnosed more often with eye problems. You don’t need great eye sight to pick rice, and it is very probable that many farmers have bad vision but just never care (or could even afford) glasses, especially back 20 years ago.


That's what baffles me so much, the US keeps buying those billion dallar war machines like cheap candy, yet has no money to build decent modern infrastructure back home, and the war bills seem won't stop hiking any time soon.


I've found delaying my sleep habit is very easy, just stay up late, yet the reverse is super hard and easily lapses.


It's easier to go earlier to sleep if you wake up very early. Don't delay your wake up time and you're more tired in the evening. Also don't spend the night with activities that keep you awake. Just watch a movie/series or something or read a book. Usually makes me tired.


Why users will stick to Google forever for those queries? they can search those on shopping/review apps.


Because Google has better results? What app has managed to take any serious amount of search queries from Google?


It’s not about taking general search from Google. It’s about picking off high value search.

Your random searches are not that valuable from a monetization standpoint. Searches that lead people to buy things are. Those searches are easy to pick off on a category by category basis. I had no idea that Google actually took up most of the screen on mobile with ads for products for sell until this thread. I’ve had Ad blocking on for just that long.


So easy that it still hasn't been done yet? What's everyone waiting for then with 10s of billions in profit available?

In fact it's the opposite happening with Google now pushing into searches for flights and hotels with far better UX, even though those verticals were dominated by other vendors.


Zillow, Amazon, Nolo, Priceline, Indeed, ZipRecruiter, LinkedIn, vsrious car sites, etc.


You are being naive here, the edge is data size, what made Amazon stuck out is they have shopping specific data, that's what matters, so too will those specific apps.


I've been in adtech for 10+ years so I'll take my experience and connections over your anonymous comments.

Nobody cares about some app that gets 0.001% of the usage and probably doesn't even have any strong identity link. "Shopping data" isn't magical nor is it of interest to every advertiser. Purchase data is also already processed by specific companies with their own properties or in aggregate by many ad networks. And, in case you missed my first comment, Google recently closed a deal to get purchase data directly from Mastercard which is far more than any single retailer could provide.

If you actually have an example of a specific app that is delivering much greater ad performance then perhaps you should share it.


Ultimately, it's not a good thing.


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