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I have a question. If A were to basically just release Mythos as-is, what would happen? What outcome are they so afraid of?

Hegseth would try to nationalize them. He wouldn’t succeed. But he’s an idiot who trashes things without any clear benefit to himself, and the ensuing fight would probably push Anthropic’s IPO window out of 2026.

> What outcome are they so afraid of?

Competitor distillation


They're afraid that it will find vulnerabilities in everything and create thousands of new zero day exploits, apparently

Cyber-attacks to start, and real-world terrorist attacks/bombings (inc. chemical/biological weapons) later.

It's rather obvious to me once the Chinese and Russian hackers get a hold of this it will be "jailbroken" overnight, and all mayhem and anarchy will break loose.

This article asserts a pretty strong, contrarian thesis... and then fails to dive into it whatsoever. The "evidence" consists of one paragraph of random insults towards major tech CEOs. I have to say, I found it to be a complete waste of time with zero useful insight to provide.

Conversational Siri - yes, absolutely. All the rest - probably not.

All I want the ability to talk to Siri while I'm in the car. My buddy's Tesla has this feature with Grok and it's actually really awesome. Let me have an on-demand CONVERSATIONAL assistant, meaning something I'd actually want to have a conversation with.

How do you resolve the security dilemma? A cursory knowledge of international relations shows why a "global pause" is basically impossible, and that's to say nothing of current international conditions. These Anthropic guys are smart, and so I can't help but think that this posture is nothing more than grandstanding to build up hype and attention ahead of the IPO.

They mention the Nuclear Forces Treaty which manages to accomplish this for a similarly difficult problem, so i believe this is technicality a solvable problem, it's just a matter of political will.

I don't disagree that theoretically there could be some kind of test ban treaty type thing. But the mere fact that the primary rhetoric we see from leaders is around "winning the AI competition with China", I personally can't help but interpret this as a sign that nobody in the US is even close to ready to come to the table ready to slow things down.

Super cool project, thanks for sharing. Definitely conforms to my own battle-tested assessments of Opus, it's the smartest model by a long shot.

Thanks yea same, it is both very convincing but at the same time also open to changing its positing when presented with a good argument.

I wish China didn't have such a hostile government to the West. Because I'd love to buy a BYD car and see this for myself, or try the Xiaomi car that MKBHD was so keen on. But because of the hostility I kind of get why there are bans.

>I wish China didn't have such a hostile government to the West.

In what way are they hostile? I am also part of "the west" and they never threatened us.

The west != just the USA.


Are western companies able to freely compete in China? Last I checked, no, they need local partners at best, or are blocked completely at worst. And not just American but any outside company.

What their government does in regards to local industry is effectively what donald trump is attempting to do with the US economy. Except they do it well.

And I don't approve of Trump doing it either. And I'd certainly call it Trump being hostile to the entire world.

I consider you as a victim of the brainwashing by your main stream media.

there are tons of western cars on Chinese roads, tesla was given free land and close to interest free loan to build its factory in Shanghai. there are numerous apple shops in China. guess how many Chinese cars are driving on US roads, how many Huawei phones are being sold in the US.

if you are open to the idea of jumping out of your comfort zone of your favourite brainwashing media, some westerner actually went to China and counted every single car at an intersection for 30 minutes with all brands summarised. over 40% are western cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZKbEj39gEw&t=1496s

again - it is not your fault, you are the victim. I just feel sad for you.


> And not just American but any outside company.

Would you call that "hostility to the West"? Sounds like an attempt to protect their own interests.


It's benefiting from the globalized market without freely competing in it. It gives them a massive edge in many industries and the world couldn't say no because of cheap manufacturing.

And certainly hostile when you add currency manipulation onto it as well.


>It's benefiting from the globalized market without freely competing in it.

Ha, very rich criticism considering the US economy and stock market has been benefiting 1000x more from said "globalized market without freely competing in it", by printing money and exporting its inflation across the world with dampened consequences domestically, then using said printed money like liquid gold to buy valuable assets around the world (like real estate and innovative companies) thanks to its status as a reserve currency (something Charles De Gaulle complained about since the 1950s), a unique US cheat code enforced thought force via its massive military.

>And certainly hostile when you add currency manipulation onto it as well.

Again, very rich criticism considering the US's abusing its status as the reserve currency for its own benefit, see above.


This is now limited to only some restricted industries: https://www.ndrc.gov.cn/xxgk/zcfb/ghxwj/202504/P020250424307... Yes, the list is long, but it's a significant improvement to the before times when all industries were off limits save for a few exceptions where foreign investment was allowed. Notably, the car industry has been mostly unrestricted for a few years now.

It's a myth. It depends on what the company does.

Internet services? Yes, you need a domestic partner, because you'll disseminate information to the public.

If you're in the automobile industry, you can import cars to China. China was Porsche's largest market until 2025, and all Porsches are imported. It used to be that a Chinese partner is needed to manufacture cars in China, but Tesla did not need one, and that policy was dropped. Anyway, it's nowhere close to the complete ban the US placed on Chinese cars.

In many other industries, you can create a foreign-owned company and operate in China.


>Are western companies able to freely compete in China? Last I checked, no, they need local partners at best,

Tesla operates Giga Shanghai fully independently and competes freely.

>And not just American but any outside company.

So did Italy, Germany, Japan and Korea to build up domestic auto industries otherwise Detroit would have steemroled them.


Giga Shanghai is the exception the proves the rule. It's one of the few, if only, foreign businesses that operate without a joint venture with a local company.

Again, nobody forces you to open your business or manufacture your stuff in China. Plenty of companies do not, like Google.

Companies abided to ruthless Chinese rules because they were greedy and wanted to exploit the Chinese slave labor and also get access to Chinese market, but the CCP didn't put a gun to their head and forced them to come to China, they decided that themselves for the sake of the holy shareholder growth. And now, 2 decades after you've made your money, you're complaining over a consensual arrangement?

And trade is always gonna be asymmetric, with rules in foreign countries that don't exist in the US. That's why the EU fines US companies regularly. China isn't much different. You want to operate in China, then you gotta follow the CCP rules. You don't? Then just leave. Easy.


Lots of countries are like that though. America has an unusually free system where anyone can do anything for better or worse, but Walmart failed in Germany by ignoring all the local processes like employee protections. (But I hear Aldi is taking over the UK!)

Employee protections aren't hostile, blocking Facebook while exporting Tiktok is a hostile trade imbalance.

>blocking Facebook while exporting Tiktok is a hostile trade imbalance

The US also threatened to block tiktok unless China sold it to a local US oligarch(the Oracle guy). The US is no saint here. And good luck getting people to shed a tear for China blocking Facebook. Good riddance to both of them.


The Tiktok we get that's full of slop isn't allowed in China either. China has a completely different set of content on its TikTok. Trade imbalance is a skill issue and within the country they compete fairly.

China is just as much of a guilty party as the “west” could be. From massive corporate espionage, open stealing of western IP, blocking western companies from entering markets. It is foolish to think they are not at some level an adversary. I would still absolutely buy a BYD car but China plays the same game, maybe even better, and that the west has also played for decades.

>From massive corporate espionage, open stealing of western IP, blocking western companies from entering markets.

"the west" did the same. You can't play fairly if your opponents never did.


Did I not already say that? Both are just as guilty but your original thesis is simply wrong. Sorry.

Why is it wrong? China is just playing the greedy globalist capitalist game the west has created, but they haven't bombed foreign countries or kidnapped their leaders like the US has, so from that perspective China is not a military threat to us, they're just ruthless competitors. So you are the one who's wrong.

Whataboutism is a weak argument. China is an equal player on the world stage when it comes to propensity to harm. From the many human rights violations over the years, how they orchestrated the takeover of Hong Kong, frequent border disputes that continue to happen and the continuous posturing of naval fleets. I am not saying one is better or worse than the other but don’t confuse yourself, China is absolutely a threat to global peace.

>Whataboutism is a weak argument.

Whataboutism is the magic gotcha card invoked when people have no answers to the absolutely fair question "why is X allowed to do Y but Z is not allowed to do Y".

If there's no hypocritical double standards then you'd have an answer instead of calling whataboutism.

>From the many human rights violations over the years

Their problem, not ours. Just don't buy stuff made in china and write to your politicians to stop sending your manufacturing jobs there out of greed of stonks go up like they've been doing for 30 years, if you want to do anything about it.

>how they orchestrated the takeover of Hong Kong

The British gave it to them. US also took over several overseas territories. Where's the hubbub there?

>frequent border disputes that continue to happen and the continuous posturing of naval fleets

Again, their problem to deal with not ours. I don't want to police and get involved in centuries old conflicts on other side of the planet that have nothing to do with us. I only care what happens in my backyard. Feel free to go join the Indian military and help them fight China if you actually care that much about it.

>China is absolutely a threat to global peace.

Then US is an even bigger threat. And still I don't want to go to war with them.


The hostility is a result of a long reading of history. If you think Chinese leadership has forgotten European colonialism, you are mistaken. If you want to understand how deeply the maximalist mindset runs in Chinese culture, look up what the name of the country - zhongguo - means. I love Chinese culture, and lived there, but make no mistake about how clear eyed their leadership is about competition with western hegemony.

>If you think Chinese leadership has forgotten European colonialism, you are mistaken.

You are mistaken to think I forgot that. The west is the one who is mistaken if they think all other countries and cultures forgot that. If they can, they would gladly enact revenge over Europeans and whip them. Which is why it's best to arm ourselves to the teeth and ensure they'll never be in a position do that. So no, i haven't forgotten, the west has.

>but make no mistake about how clear eyed their leadership is about competition with western hegemony.

Isn't hegemony what US leadership has been doing since WW2, increasingly more vigorously and more intensely today? Except China is doing without bombing other nations and kidnapping their leader. So in this game China is the righteous ones.


Office work removes corporate friction at the expense of personal friction (commuting, dress codes, etc), while WFH removes personal friction at the expense of corporate fiction in the way you've just described. It's an interesting dichotomy. Given who the power lies with in our society, I think we all know which one will win out in the long run.

The first part of your post was very insightful, and I broadly agree. It is interesting that you consider (office) "dress codes" a personal friction. Do dress codes still really exist? I work in a very conservative industry, and the dress codes have changed dramatically in the last 10-20 years. For any other industry, I'm sure the changes are even greater. Also, I am the type of person that really likes to dress well and maintain good appearance when I go to the office. It's a nice way to start the day. The idea of working from home wearing "house clothes" isn't for me.

However, I disagree with this part:

    > Given who the power lies with in our society, I think we all know which one will win out in the long run.
In a capitalist system, there is always push and pull between employer and employee. Look how desperate tech hiring was during the COVID-19 crisis. It was insane. You had silly stories on HN of people working two jobs at once. Next, the economy slowed and layoffs came. The script flipped. Once the economy is strong again, employers will be more flexible on accepting remote work. For many industries that employ technologists, part-time work-from-home is now a permanent reality. If you not a "gold standard" company, you need to find non-economic advantages when hiring. One of those is part-time work-from-home.

Dress codes definitely exist, even if they're usually not stated.

I'm a woman. I also have MS. A lot of people with MS, myself included, experience something called the 'MS Hug', which is spasticity, pain, and tenderness in your ribcage muscles.

Wearing a bra for 9 hours a day ensures that I'm in a shit ton of pain. A full time RTO job would mean being in pain constantly so that other people aren't offended by my body. Right now I'm hybrid with one day a week in and I just load up on painkillers and muscle relaxers for that day, but even then I can only do so much because you can't just down 8mg of tizanidine and then drive home.

You wouldn't know any of this by looking at me.


Hat tip. Thanks for the honest reply. First hand accounts like this make HN a better place. I'm sorry you need to suffer from that. I wish you luck finding a job that will allow you to do 100% WFH!

Fortunately, there is flexibility on the 1 day a week in the office for me, so if I'm having a really bad day, I don't have to go. I've had full WFH in the past and it's worked well for me. I've also ended interviews when I'm told the job is 3+ days in office.

I know a lot of people with disabilities that can work if we're WFH, but the requirements of full RTO would push us out of the workplace. I can do 1-2 days, but more than that would end up being very difficult. I can borrow energy/slam caffeine/take an extra Adderall on office days and then just recover the next day or go to bed as soon as I get home, but doing that 5 days a week isn't going to work.

I understand where the RTO advocates are coming from. I do find those 3/4 days a month in the office to be helpful for context building, and there are a lot of jobs that do benefit from that in person collaboration.

My job is primarily supporting people across several countries with a side of system maintenance. There's not really any point to me being in the office more than I am. In fact, being able to work effectively remotely is a key skill for doing this job.


Fair enough. I'm feeling more than a bit pessimistic right now to be honest, looking at the CEOs gleefully talking about how we're gonna have to find new jobs. Hopefully the pendulum does swing the other way again.

On the dress code, for me personally, unless I'm at home in commando sweatpants and a sweatshirt, there is always a low grade cognitive tax of me being uncomfortable in the garb that society deems acceptable to wear in an office. And I'm one of the lucky ones, I can wear khakis and a polo. My heart goes out to those poor Wall Street guys who are stuck in suits all day.


This has got to be the most thin, vague, stupid article I've ever read. It doesn't go into specifics whatsoever, and just retreads the same points people have been saying since 2023. A complete waste of time and I wish I hadn't read it.


Thank you for saving me from the misery and regret.


Yeah, absolutely. I feel like we've replaced "deep work" with constant context switching, breakages, and friction. I got into this line of work in order to go deep and build cool stuff, but now the vast majority of my day-to-day is spent fighting against interfaces. Couple this with unreasonable expectations from the man and yeah, my dev job is leaving me more exhausted than ever.


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