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Have you used any modern RSS reader recently like inoreader, they load the content of the page without visiting the publishing website. So still, no ads.


> Have you used any modern RSS reader recently like inoreader, they load the content of the page without visiting the publishing website.

I'm happy with newsboat[1]; but I'm not surprised that people have integrated scraping into RSS readers.

Fundamentally, that's not a problem with RSS, that's a war between scrapers and content providers. If the email newsletter model persists long enough, I'd expect that people will come out with "newsletter readers" that scrape websites too.

I'm not sure there's a good long-term solution to the problem. Aside from constant vigilance (obfuscation).

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1. https://newsboat.org/


Sure, you can obfuscate all you want. But my point still stands valid.

Earning a living from ads for these types of people.is not sustainable. They will have adblocker installed, so you are also wasting respurces with no income.

RSS or newsletter or whatever scrapper, it's there today already.


Actually, “newsletter readers” exist in a form already with email-to-RSS.

https://kill-the-newsletter.com/


Newsboat FTW


Adding ads into feeds works, just make them an entry in the feed. I have also seen embedded images with ads.

Issue is that Google Ads and such don't offer this and you don't get the "typical" ad networks.

If RSS were more popular there wouldn't be a problem to build the required tooling.

Even when feed readers don't send cookies etc. while fetching you can do a permanent redirect to a feed with an unique ID in the URL and most feed readers will store that URL, thus you can do tracking (incl. personalizing URLs in the feed) and all that.

What saves reader privacy currently is the small user base.


Yeah, that's roughly aligns with what I've experienced. RSS is beneficial to publishers when reach is the top priority (e.g. it's a company marketing blog or the ads are "embedded" directly into the content).


I can agree with that. But still, an experienced user will skip the ads posts and will smell them from far away.


Yet it will dominate since it's cheaper to produce en mass.


Don't forget that reloading through the networks gives Google the ability to keep tracking. The requests will go only to that URL, but Google will get it one way or another...


Why would Google need a reload to keep tracking (they already control the browser)? That this feature/implementation was driven by desire for more tracking sounds far fetched to me.


It just collapses the circles. It would be much better to just hide the inner circle and paint an outer circle with the same color of the skin.


> It just collapses the circles.

You not familiar with how eyes close?


I think they're saying it would be more natural if the eyes closed from the top, I guess?


Many explinations are available on the web, but it comes down to the dependence on these seeds and thus on the producer of them.


How is that different from use of hybrid seeds, which have been available since forever and don't breed true?

The solution to dependence is to have multiple suppliers. One can always use an older variety of seed. If the complaint is that the benefits are going to the company that made the seeds rather than the farmer, then how is that different from any other patented technology? The farmer is never going to be worse off, since he can always just use older varieties if the cost > his benefit.

Perhaps your actual argument is that this will reduce food prices, driving out producers who don't keep up with the latest advances. But again, how is that different from any other improvement in agricultural technology? Is this just more European objection to the steamroller of US industrial agriculture?


Still good lesson learned.


Yeah, where is the import options?

Do you guys think you will only gain new customers that are ready to start from 0?


When oil producing countries are racing to get nuclear energy, it remains no surprise that it is something that will only help in the transition, because burning the fule is not a enough!


They are setting some limits as well.


You may have missed this in the article:

> The local council has emphasised that there will be no limit to visitor numbers, only an increase in the entry fee should a certain number of visitors be reached on a particular day.


"Oh no there is no limit, it's just that you're visitor number 100,001 so you'll have to pay € 500 to get in, but feel free to do so" ;-)


This is not 100% free (fanepalm)


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